Well, it looks almost like an entirely different movie. We'll see how different it ends up being, or if this trailer is just like the trailer for The Last Jedi before it came out - looks fucking amazing yet was just a turd with lipstick on it. [Reply]
I'll watch it when it comes out, but I have a feeling it'll be like The Lord of the Rings Extended Versions that came out later than the theatrical release. Yeah, it's nice to get the extra footage, but it doesn't change the story, if you didn't like the story before, I'm not sure if Superman in a black suit and more footage of Batman's dreams, Cyborg playing football, and Wonder Woman doing more research into the enemies they're fighting, will really change much. I haven't seen Justice League since the theaters so it'll be a good rewatch. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Gravedigger:
I'll watch it when it comes out, but I have a feeling it'll be like The Lord of the Rings Extended Versions that came out later than the theatrical release. Yeah, it's nice to get the extra footage, but it doesn't change the story, if you didn't like the story before, I'm not sure if Superman in a black suit and more footage of Batman's dreams, Cyborg playing football, and Wonder Woman doing more research into the enemies they're fighting, will really change much. I haven't seen Justice League since the theaters so it'll be a good rewatch.
I don’t know, Dude. I don’t think that WB would shell out $80 million for an extended release edit.
From my understanding, there were some serious reshoots involved and at least $40 million in new visual effects shots, along with basically, a new score.
If it’s not much different than the original, Zach Snyder’s cred is going to take a serious hit in this business. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
I don’t know, Dude. I don’t think that WB would shell out $80 million for an extended release edit.
From my understanding, there were some serious reshoots involved and at least $40 million in new visual effects shots, along with basically, a new score.
If it’s not much different than the original, Zach Snyder’s cred is going to take a serious hit in this business.
Maybe you can verify or call bullshit on this. Someone posted the below on Reddit about the new cut.....
Originally Posted by :
Some frequent questions I've seen coming up is what's different with this version to the 2017 version of Justice League.
Zack Snyder shot 5 hours of assembly footage during principle photography in 2016. From that, he edited it to 214 mins(3.5 hours) and was happy to call it his director's cut. From this, he was happy to edit it down to 3 hours for the theatrical cut, and release the 3.5 hour directors cut in Blu-ray.
But WB wanted Zack Snyder to cut it to 2 hours for the theatrical cut. Which is unbelievable, since cutting 1.5 hours from a 3.5 hour movie would make it extremely unwatchable and make absolutely no sense. Snyder tried his best to negotiate with WB to release a longer cut, even made a 2.5 hour cut, which was extremely compromised and makes no sense, but WB wasn't happy. This was when Snyder suffered a family tragedy and lost the will to fight with WB for the longer cut.
He stepped down and WB(Geoff Johns) used this opportunity to hire Joss Whedon, and use the 2 months of reshoots to reshoot almost the entire film. He wrote 88 pages of reshoots, which translates to almost 90 mins of the final movie.
The original cinematographer, Fabian Wagner, and later Snyder confirmed that only 30 mins of the theatrical cut of Justice League had shots by Zack Snyder, and even those were heavily edited. The rest were shot by Joss Whedon.
So Zack Snyder's Justice League releasing next month, which is 4 hours, will contain at minimum 3.5 hours of footage we never saw.
The only new idea is the 4 mins of new footage he shot recently with Jared Leto and Joe Mangeniello, which he added since he wanted this universe's Batman and Joker meet at least once. Other than that, it's all shot in 2016.
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Different iteration, I believe. None of the tattoos from before.
Although it just a dream sequence....so who knows.
Yeah, that's what I thought, but most articles I've read seem to allude that they're actually one and the same. Don't really care all that much because either way they got rid of all the goofy shit that made him look like Tekashi69. [Reply]
I get that trailers are bullshit, and can be cut in any way to show any thing, but even the trailer itself looks like it's from a completely different movie than the original. It would not surprise me at all if half or more of this cut was comprised of footage audiences haven't seen before. [Reply]
Originally Posted by keg in kc:
I get that trailers are bullshit, and can be cut in any way to show any thing, but even the trailer itself looks like it's from a completely different movie than the original. It would not surprise me at all if half or more of this cut was comprised of footage audiences haven't seen before.
That would be smart, because the footage that audiences have already seen kinda fucking sucked. [Reply]
Originally Posted by keg in kc:
I get that trailers are bullshit, and can be cut in any way to show any thing, but even the trailer itself looks like it's from a completely different movie than the original. It would not surprise me at all if half or more of this cut was comprised of footage audiences haven't seen before.
Well it’s 4 hours long. So I imagine there will be a lot of footage no one has seen before. [Reply]
Deborah Snyder says there are 2,650 new VFX shots in Justice League.
“If you think about it, about how much extra time that is, and then you think about how visual effects-heavy these superhero films are, we had to do, in six months, 2,650-some-odd visual effects shots. Normally, when you do these movies, what happens is, as you’re shooting, you start turning over shots. Listen, we had a lot of assets built, but I think the way the theatrical release was done, they changed a lot of things.
Through the process, as we were working on the movie, [there were] some of the things they wanted Zack to change, some of the designs of the characters. So, we want back to the original intention, of Zack’s intention, in terms of the characters and had to rebuild those models. But then there were just so many shots to do. Visual effects [people] wanted a year to get it done, and [WB] said, ‘We’ll do it, but we want it by the end of March.’ I think it was the beginning of March actually. And we were like, ‘Okay! We’re just going to figure it out!'”
"We literally shot one scene, like one additional [scene]. I shot three days here. That’s it. That what we captured’.”
Said scene is reportedly the infamous Knightmare scene teased in “Batman v. Superman” and required the return of Ben Affleck, Ezra Miller, Amber Heard and Jared Leto. Miller shot his scenes by remote as he was in the UK working on “Fantastic Beasts” at the time.
Zack Snyder has revealed on his Vero account that he is working on a black and white version of the film he calls the “Justice is Gray” version. A first taste of Junkie XL’s score for the new cut can be heard here. He also revealed to Minutemen he’s working on a reimagining of the Arthurian legend. Finally, check out a fun segment below on the upcoming new cut.
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So the new scene has been edited to around 4 minutes of screen time but I'd imagine they shot quite a bit more. But 2,650 VFX shots weren't cheap and probably cost somewhere around $40-50 million in total, which meant they spent somewhere around $20 million for those additional 4 minutes of screen time.