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Nzoner's Game Room>Official 2017 STL Cardinals Thread
BigRedChief 08:06 PM 01-27-2017
My as well get it started. Here's my "Matheny" lineup.....

Fowler CF
Diaz SS
Carpenter 1B
Piscotty RF
Grichuk LF
Molina C
Peralta 3B
Wong 2B
Pitcher

My "Matheny" Starting rotation

Martinez
Reyes
Wainwright
Lynn
Leake
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raybec 4 11:15 AM 04-21-2017
Originally Posted by jd1020:
I just saw the video of the homer he gave up to Shaw and it looked like Martinez went to the hardware store and bought a mop to use as dreads.

Meanwhile, your resident former bum Eric Thames relegated to the Korean league has turned into a WWE wrestler and is hitting every other pitch out of the park.
Yeah, and today we roll Waino's wheelchair to the mound to watch him face 73 batters in the first three innings
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George Liquor 07:00 PM 04-21-2017
Can we convert waino to an outfielder ?
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Frazod 09:01 PM 04-21-2017
Up 6-3 in the bottom of the 9th. Can they hold on?

I dare not tune in to find out.
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Frazod 09:22 PM 04-21-2017
And they won.

Had I turned on the game, they would have lost 7-6 in 10 innings.

So you're welcome. :-)
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O.city 07:45 PM 04-22-2017
Yadi looked safe
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'Hamas' Jenkins 11:51 AM 04-23-2017
You know who would be a perfect fit for this lineup and defense, and who wouldn't cost much?

David Freese.
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Jewish Rabbi 11:58 AM 04-23-2017
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
You know who would be a perfect fit for this lineup and defense, and who wouldn't cost much?

David Freese.
I don't know if he'd be willing to come back. I read an article the other day about all the personal demons he was dealing with in St. Louis and how he's supposedly over them now.
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Marcellus 08:47 AM 04-24-2017
Don't look now but the shitty ass Cards are only 1.5 games back and starting to play better.

But....3 guys picked off on the bases yesterday. WTF? They don't have the offense to give away outs especially with runners in scoring position.

They need to get Rosy back into the closers role ASAP.

And I don't know how long its going to last but Leake is pitching lights out. If they can get Martinez lined out and Waino fixed out they could have a good rotation.

Sadly I think Waino is the lost cause of the group.
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DJ's left nut 08:55 AM 04-24-2017
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Don't look now but the shitty ass Cards are only 1.5 games back and starting to play better.

But....3 guys picked off on the bases yesterday. WTF? They don't have the offense to give away outs especially with runners in scoring position.

They need to get Rosy back into the closers role ASAP.

And I don't know how long its going to last but Leake is pitching lights out. If they can get Martinez lined out and Waino fixed out they could have a good rotation.

Sadly I think Waino is the lost cause of the group.
I have a hard time wrapping my head around how bad a defensive 1b Matt Carpenter is.

In the one game they lost in that series, Martinez gave up a 3 run bomb that happened because Carpenter simply missed a pick-off throw. It hit him right in the glove and skipped away to allow the runner to advance. The next pitch was a routine DP ball but it went to the vacated hole after the SS moved towards 2b to hold the runner. If the SS is at DP depth with the runner at 1b, it's an easy DP and the inning is over.

Carpenter's defense is killing us and the offense isn't coming around because he's a headcase who can't seem to perform in the 3 hole because he's wound so tight and puts pressure on himself.

I said it when they said they were moving him off 3b last year - they needed to trade him. The guy's a DH.
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O.city 10:03 AM 04-24-2017
Just move him back to 3rd and end the Adams in LF stuff.
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Marcellus 10:04 AM 04-24-2017
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I have a hard time wrapping my head around how bad a defensive 1b Matt Carpenter is.

In the one game they lost in that series, Martinez gave up a 3 run bomb that happened because Carpenter simply missed a pick-off throw. It hit him right in the glove and skipped away to allow the runner to advance. The next pitch was a routine DP ball but it went to the vacated hole after the SS moved towards 2b to hold the runner. If the SS is at DP depth with the runner at 1b, it's an easy DP and the inning is over.

Carpenter's defense is killing us and the offense isn't coming around because he's a headcase who can't seem to perform in the 3 hole because he's wound so tight and puts pressure on himself.

I said it when they said they were moving him off 3b last year - they needed to trade him. The guy's a DH.

He is an even worse base runner than defensive player I think.

Put him back at 3rd and platoon 1st base.

And yea the 3 hole is a shitty spot for Carpenter.
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raybec 4 10:12 AM 04-24-2017
Carp couldn't do worse leading off than Fowler has so far. He's hitting .169 with a .241 OBP. That's no bueno
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Swanman 10:16 AM 04-24-2017
Originally Posted by raybec 4:
Carp couldn't do worse leading off than Fowler has so far. He's hitting .169 with a .241 OBP. That's no bueno
Just go Marp and leadoff, then Fowler and Diaz at the 2 and 3. Diaz is the one guy hitting for a little bit of power so he is more fit for the 3 or 4 slot anyway. If Fowler can't get going, then move him back and have someone like Garcia bat 2.
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VAChief 10:22 AM 04-24-2017
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Don't look now but the shitty ass Cards are only 1.5 games back and starting to play better.

But....3 guys picked off on the bases yesterday. WTF? They don't have the offense to give away outs especially with runners in scoring position.

They need to get Rosy back into the closers role ASAP.

And I don't know how long its going to last but Leake is pitching lights out. If they can get Martinez lined out and Waino fixed out they could have a good rotation.

Sadly I think Waino is the lost cause of the group.
Leake had nothing yesterday and still survived. His upside is limited, but I have watched all of his games, and the depth on his sinker, coupled with what appears to be an uptick in velocity has been impressive. Unfortunately we don't have the Cubs infield defense.

Waino needs to scrap the cutter. If he wants to improve something go with a sinking two-seamer. His fastball has always been straight, but as he has lost velocity it is no longer missing bats unless he paints the corners or is consistently throwing his curve for strikes. If he could sink his fastball for strikes to get ahead, he could go up top with a 92-93 mph 4-seamer. When he throws his curve for strikes down in the zone, it is basically the same idea (changing the hitters eye level to the ball). It is just a lot tougher to consistently get ahead with your 12-6 curve, especially without hanging one.
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Pasta Little Brioni 10:27 AM 04-24-2017
81 and 81!!! Cold Budweisers and melted Provel for all!
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