Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by petegz28:
you were bragging the other day about how well the NFL was doing and why people can't be more like them, weren't you?
Did you miss the news that a game is being canceled because players on the Titans got Covid?
I still think the NFL has done a great job so far and they still haven't said how any of them got infected but the speculation is it might be one of the bus drivers.
Just don't be like some of the Raiders and go to an indoor fundraising event and not wear masks. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball:
Exactly. Or how shutting down an entire nation for a miniscule percent of the population would have disastrous coinciding consequences. But hey you could still cram into a Walmart and eat your taco bell. Meanwhile small business eroded and depression and anxiety over losing jobs erupted
Yeah I never understood the difference of being able to go to Wal-Mart but not another small business. It made little sense if any. [Reply]
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Yeah I never understood the difference of being able to go to Wal-Mart but not another small business. It made little sense if any.
Or how no "super spreader" events have been linked to any stores that have been open the entire damn time. Corrupt bullshit. If this shit was super dangerous, you'd see entire stores and their families wiped out with essential workers who have been around thousands of people a day for 6 months. [Reply]
It's close contact for prolonged amounts of time. Most essential workers aren't in close contact with the public for long periods of time.
Super spreader events have been shown to happen all around in situations like meat processing factories where people are in tight unventilated spaces for prolonged time. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
It's close contact for prolonged amounts of time. Most essential workers aren't in close contact with the public for long periods of time.
Super spreader events have been shown to happen all around in situations like meat processing factories where people are in tight unventilated spaces for prolonged time.
This bug is weird, had one of the mangers here at work have a kid in the household who was symptomatic test positive. A HS senior who has an identical twin brother and as usual they are very close and do everything together.
Nobody else in the household has tested positive or had symptoms including the twin brother. Multiple tests have been done on family members. The mom is a nurse. This is following the full quarantine etc...kids are back in school and he is back to work. :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
This bug is weird, had one of the mangers here at work have a kid in the household who was symptomatic test positive. A HS senior who has an identical twin brother and as usual they are very close and do everything together.
Nobody else in the household has tested positive or had symptoms including the twin brother. Multiple tests have been done on family members. The mom is a nurse. This is following the full quarantine etc...kids are back in school and he is back to work. :-)
Yeah, they're finding now the majority of people don't spread infection. It's super spreaders doing alot of it. Dunno if it's viral load or whats causing it.
Influenza is similar in this regard though, so this bug isn't crazy in that way.
My great grandma has it, they're thinking she had a stroke this morning, not doing well. Fucking terrible year for me man. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
It's close contact for prolonged amounts of time. Most essential workers aren't in close contact with the public for long periods of time.
Super spreader events have been shown to happen all around in situations like meat processing factories where people are in tight unventilated spaces for prolonged time.
That still doesn't address the point of why small retail business were shut down but large retail businesses weren't.
Shops like local butchers and florists were already endangered here. Now they're gone. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
That still doesn't address the point of why small retail business were shut down but large retail businesses weren't.
Shops like local butchers and florists were already endangered here. Now they're gone.
This...absolutely fucking this. It's corrupt bullshit is what it is. Shutting the entire country down EXCEPT for large corporations is not something that I can stand for. It's total BULLSHIT. [Reply]
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Yeah I never understood the difference of being able to go to Wal-Mart but not another small business. It made little sense if any.
Wal-Mart sells things like prescription drugs and food, necessities for every day life. You can't see a difference between that and going to a bar, concert, or movie theater? [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
My great grandma has it, they're thinking she had a stroke this morning, not doing well. Fucking terrible year for me man.
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
This bug is weird, had one of the mangers here at work have a kid in the household who was symptomatic test positive. A HS senior who has an identical twin brother and as usual they are very close and do everything together.
Nobody else in the household has tested positive or had symptoms including the twin brother. Multiple tests have been done on family members. The mom is a nurse. This is following the full quarantine etc...kids are back in school and he is back to work. :-)
It is weird and we don't have a clue right now why. So if we all just take a common sense approach and SD and wear masks we will be mostly ok.
For example, our popular Mexican restaurant just had an outbreak and they just reopened back up after a week and now only doing takeout. We have had alot of cases and I imagine some of it is from them because they never had tables socially distanced and people were packed in there. I haven't ate inside a restaurant since this whole thing started but that place is packed especially on weekends. [Reply]
Originally Posted by sedated:
Wal-Mart sells things like prescription drugs and food, necessities for every day life. You can't see a difference between that and going to a bar, concert, or movie theater?
Our local pharmacy was shut down for 3 weeks. Local grocers were shut down or limited in customers for several weeks.
It isn't just fucking bars or movie theaters. [Reply]
