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Nzoner's Game Room>Official 2017-2018 NBA Playoffs thread!
Al Bundy 08:21 PM 04-13-2018

We'll see if the Warriors recover from the end of the season stretch of stinkers.
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-King- 07:50 PM 04-30-2018
It's amazing how well coached Boston is.
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dirk digler 07:51 PM 04-30-2018
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry:
NBA just doesn't have another major TV draw right now outside of LeBron. It sucks because the talent level is pretty damn amazing right now. Just not marketing wise. NBA would take a hit just like when Jordan retired. Lot of that also occurred because Shaq and Kobe were unlikable. Especially Kobe's punk ass. Iverson came across as a thug. The other great team was the Spurs and they are the most boring ass franchise lead by a boring ass superstar in Duncan. It's a shame Shaq and Penny couldn't have been longer.
Yes they do, they are called the Golden State Warriors. That is why they were almost always playing on Saturday night prime time.
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dirk digler 07:53 PM 04-30-2018
Originally Posted by -King-:
It's amazing how well coached Boston is.
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Stevens should be coach of the year for the way he has coached this year with all the injuries they had. I am pretty confidant in saying that if the Celtics were completely healthy they would be in the Finals this year.
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KC_Connection 08:00 PM 04-30-2018
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
Stevens should be coach of the year for the way he has coached this year with all the injuries they had. I am pretty confidant in saying that if the Celtics were completely healthy they would be in the Finals this year.
They wouldn't because of LeBron but Stevens is easily the best coach in the NBA these days.
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KC_Connection 08:02 PM 04-30-2018
Originally Posted by -King-:
People who want to have some kind of rhythm in their game? People who aren't spot up shooters? People who like playing in some kind of system?
I'll take a barrage of the most efficient shots in basketball over "rhythm" and LeBron provides that to anybody who is beside him. "Rhythm" is how you end up with players like DeRozan taking low percentage contested jumpers all game.
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-King- 08:07 PM 04-30-2018
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
I'll take a barrage of the most efficient shots in basketball over "rhythm" and LeBron provides that to anybody who is beside him. "Rhythm" is how you end up with players like DeRozan taking low percentage contested jumpers all game.
So you think every player can be a spot up shooters?
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dirk digler 08:13 PM 04-30-2018
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
They wouldn't because of LeBron but Stevens is easily the best coach in the NBA these days.
agree to disagree and it is to bad we won't ever find out that would have been a hell of a series. I think Irving gets his revenge. :-)
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dirk digler 08:23 PM 04-30-2018
Originally Posted by -King-:
Why would they have won finals with harden and KD but not Westbrook and KD?

And Oladipo is better this year because he has a good coach and because he worked out like crazy this off season (partly motivated by seeing Westbrook work ethic).

But yeah, how exactly did Westbrook cause Carmelo to play like shit this series/season? PG had a couple good games, but it's Westbrook fault he went 2-16 in a elimination game?
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Sorry it so long to respond to this but to answer your question KD and Harden are just better players and definitely better team basketball players. Westbrook is a ball hog and doesn't get his teammates the ball and get them into any kind of rhythm. If you don't think Lebron does this Westbrook sure in the hell doesn't. That is why I brought up Oladipo, it is not a surprise alot of players that played with Westbrook play alot better elsewhere.

OKC's offense consists of Westbrook driving or shooting the ball and if he passes it to someone else he stands 3-4 ft back from the 3 pt line with his thumb up his ass. Rinse-repeat

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In a disappointing and potentially franchise-altering first-round series loss, Russell Westbrook used up 38 percent of Oklahoma City possessions with a shot, drawn foul or turnover -- a larger share than LeBron James accounted for in almost single-handedly dragging Cleveland past Indiana. Westbrook's usage rate was almost the same as LeBron's in the 2015 Finals, when James carried an injury-riddled misfit crew within two games of the championship.

Facing elimination, with every teammate but the redoubtable Steven Adams bricking away, Westbrook attempted a jaw-dropping 43 shots. He somehow launched 19 triples. He made seven. Utah coaches and players were happy with almost all of them.

There is something wrong with this. Just how wrong it is, why the Thunder still play this way, and what it means for their uncertain future are matters of debate.

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New World Order 08:28 PM 04-30-2018
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Yes what a hardship it must be for all these guys to play with LeBron. Who wants to take open jump shots and dunks all game?
That's part of the problem on offense.

Everyone else standing around. Not much motion.

The same was true last year when the ball was not only in Lebron's hands, but Kyrie's too.
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KC_Connection 08:31 PM 04-30-2018
Originally Posted by -King-:
So you think every player can be a spot up shooters?
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For the ones who can shoot, it's pretty beneficial for all of their shots to be open.
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dirk digler 08:33 PM 04-30-2018
Terry Rozier is having a great playoffs.
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KC_Connection 08:35 PM 04-30-2018
Originally Posted by New World Order:
That's part of the problem on offense.

Everyone else standing around. Not much motion.

The same was true last year when the ball was not only in Lebron's hands, but Kyrie's too.
What problem on offense? :-)

Even this year the Cavs were one of the top 5 offensive teams in basketball exactly because of the highly efficient shots that LeBron creates for the scrubs that surround him. Creating space and good shots for others is an enormous positive no matter how hard you try to deflect and convince yourself that it isn't so.
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New World Order 08:37 PM 04-30-2018
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
What problem on offense? :-)

Even this year the Cavs were one of the top 5 offensive teams in basketball exactly because of the highly efficient shots that LeBron creates for the scrubs that surround him. Creating space and good shots for others is an enormous positive no matter how hard you try to deflect and convince yourself that it isn't so.
Because if there was more motion and more involvement from his teammates Lebron would end up getting easier and more open looks. He wouldn't have to grind it out and go 1-on-1 every single time.
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KC_Connection 08:38 PM 04-30-2018
Was easy to forget before tonight that Philly hasn't proven a damn thing against anybody good. They may not get through this one.
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-King- 08:41 PM 04-30-2018
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
For the ones who can shoot, it's pretty beneficial for all of their shots to be open.
So all players are lying when they talk about getting in rhythm and having a system that promotes their strengths and hides their weaknesses? Guess you know better than NBA players.
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