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Nzoner's Game Room>Royals Announce New Ballpark in "The Heart of Downtown KC"
Couch-Potato 08:07 AM 02-14-2024
What do you guys think about the new ballpark?

ESPN:
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HonestChieffan 10:27 AM 02-14-2024
The greatest scam ever run on KC if this happens. Voters need to say no. But Voters in KC have never demonstrated they think.

The decline of the cities is irreversible
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DrunkBassGuitar 10:31 AM 02-14-2024
it's a pipe dream for sure but as someone who wants KC to move away from a car centric city, I'm hopeful that the downtown stadium can catalyze much needed public transit infrastructure. One good sign though is that KC recently eliminated their parking minimums (KC is 1/3 parking lots lol), so hopefully this will facilitate getting rid of some of the parking lots and turning them into things people will actually use.

It's very unlikely to happen but I'd love to see the trolley trail get turned into an actual trolley route. Build an east west route and KC will slowly become the envy of even european cities.
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ToxSocks 10:32 AM 02-14-2024
When San Diego decided to build Petco Park in downtown people had the same concerns some of you are complaining about.

However, the stadium did wonders to revitalize an aged, ugly portion of downtown San Diego and that area has thrived since. We have public transportation (trolley) as well as a number of parking lots/structures that help alleviate the congestion issue. Also helps that there's multiple freeway entrances near by.
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cmh6476 10:33 AM 02-14-2024
I want to know what the Chiefs get? Heated seats?
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ChiefsCountry 10:40 AM 02-14-2024
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
Enjoyed the suburbanite and boomer comments on FB yesterday... traffic and congestion nightmares, one way streets, cats and dogs living together, won't ever attend another game ever!!!

Hell, it took me an hour and a half to get out of WS game 7 in 2014 and at least an hour to get out of the 2021 AFCCG.... downtown won't be any worse than that.

The one hope though is managing the flow of people and vehicle traffic... Sprint Center events have been annoying in the past because they funnel everyone right in front of the parking garages where no one can leave due to all the foot traffic. Just a little bit of thought towards managing that and traffic lights and so forth would go a long way.
Sports Complex is a cluster fuck parking wise as well. It's not this parking utopia that people make it out to be where you just park and leave in a minute.
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Katipan 10:43 AM 02-14-2024
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
When San Diego decided to build Petco Park in downtown people had the same concerns some of you are complaining about.

However, the stadium did wonders to revitalize an aged, ugly portion of downtown San Diego and that area has thrived since. We have public transportation (trolley) as well as a number of parking lots/structures that help alleviate the congestion issue. Also helps that there's multiple freeway entrances near by.
I already said that.
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Bearcat 10:44 AM 02-14-2024

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Eleazar 10:45 AM 02-14-2024
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
When San Diego decided to build Petco Park in downtown people had the same concerns some of you are complaining about.

However, the stadium did wonders to revitalize an aged, ugly portion of downtown San Diego and that area has thrived since. We have public transportation (trolley) as well as a number of parking lots/structures that help alleviate the congestion issue. Also helps that there's multiple freeway entrances near by.
It's not like that doesn't have value, but the majority of people in the metro don't live downtown and don't frequent these areas except occasionally, so these benefits may not move the needle for them.
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KingPriest2 10:48 AM 02-14-2024
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
Enjoyed the suburbanite and boomer comments on FB yesterday... traffic and congestion nightmares, one way streets, cats and dogs living together, won't ever attend another game ever!!!

Hell, it took me an hour and a half to get out of WS game 7 in 2014 and at least an hour to get out of the 2021 AFCCG.... downtown won't be any worse than that.

The one hope though is managing the flow of people and vehicle traffic... Sprint Center events have been annoying in the past because they funnel everyone right in front of the parking garages where no one can leave due to all the foot traffic. Just a little bit of thought towards managing that and traffic lights and so forth would go a long way.
A hour to get out? Why so slow?

You also have to thin it was easy for you to park then walk into the stadium. Most ganes it doesn’t take long. Especially Royals games

That’s the thing the flow of traffic will never improve. And most of the parking will be parking garages. It’s going to take forever to get in and then to get out

And the streetcar is limited.

The city needs light rail. Which will never happen
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ChiefsCountry 10:53 AM 02-14-2024
I live pretty much the same distance from Kansas City and St. Louis. KC is like 20 miles closer or so not that big of a deal. When I go to a Royals or Chiefs game, I drive up and come home. But if I go to a Cardinals game, I get a hotel and turn a one day trip into two.
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cmh6476 10:56 AM 02-14-2024
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry:
Sports Complex is a cluster **** parking wise as well. It's not this parking utopia that people make it out to be where you just park and leave in a minute.
Royals it aint bad but for the Chiefs it blows
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duncan_idaho 10:57 AM 02-14-2024
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
Enjoyed the suburbanite and boomer comments on FB yesterday... traffic and congestion nightmares, one way streets, cats and dogs living together, won't ever attend another game ever!!!

Hell, it took me an hour and a half to get out of WS game 7 in 2014 and at least an hour to get out of the 2021 AFCCG.... downtown won't be any worse than that.

The one hope though is managing the flow of people and vehicle traffic... Sprint Center events have been annoying in the past because they funnel everyone right in front of the parking garages where no one can leave due to all the foot traffic. Just a little bit of thought towards managing that and traffic lights and so forth would go a long way.
Don't leave out the "and CRIME" complaining.

Thinking about the "congestion" concerns:
1. The stadium will seat 34,000. This is a smaller footprint.
2. I'm sure the team is counting on increasing season ticket sales to companies that have offices downtown. There are 10s of thousands of people who drive in and park at their corporate offices downtown every day.

If you work at HR Block, or JE Dunn, etc. you're already parked in a lot, and can hop on the streetcar or walk to this stadium site.
3. There are MORE parking spaces within a few blocks of the new stadium location than at the current location
4. UBER man. Getting an Uber from Brookside/Waldo/JoCO to the Crossroads is an easy deal. It's harder to get them out to the current location.
5. Streetcar

Between the streetcar, and rideshare services, and trying to attract more business people who just ... stay for the evening instead of commuting home... you're not going to have 34,000 people trying to drive down there and park for the game all at once.
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KCUnited 11:00 AM 02-14-2024
Also apps like SpotHero where you can buy a spot for a specified duration

I used it all over Chicago and for games at Chase here in PHX
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Bearcat 11:02 AM 02-14-2024
Originally Posted by KingPriest2:
A hour to get out? Why so slow?

You also have to thin it was easy for you to park then walk into the stadium. Most ganes it doesn’t take long. Especially Royals games

That’s the thing the flow of traffic will never improve. And most of the parking will be parking garages. It’s going to take forever to get in and then to get out

And the streetcar is limited.

The city needs light rail. Which will never happen
That's definitely the worst of it and probably due to full stadiums + everyone staying until the very end... both times, I was parked relatively close to the stadium and there was just no movement in the lot forever.

They also had a bottleneck strategy several years ago... I remembered basically doing laps around the stadiums, it was so bad. And sometimes it's really easy to get out because they keep the lines moving, but other times not so much.

The easiest way in and out is parking in like L and then walking back to your car and basically being out of that congestion. Very similar to downtown... I almost always park up at like 8th and Main and it's incredibly easy getting out.

Parking garages aren't bad as long as there's a constant stream of cars leaving (and not being tied up by foot traffic or cross traffic).... it's no different than funneling huge parking lots into one or two exit paths.
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Warpaint69 11:06 AM 02-14-2024
Originally Posted by Katipan:
It revitalized Denver.
Be mad, I'm just saying.
Been downtown Denver lately?
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