Originally Posted by wazu:
One thing about this trailer is it doesn't seem like the Joker is doing anything wrong or illegal. Just creepy and struggling with mental illness. I'm sure that's intentional. Phoenix seems like a really good choice if I hadn't already seen Ledger perfect the character to a level that was previously unthinkable.
He's running with a bag at one point, I'm guessing that was his first robbery. [Reply]
That's also probably the most tantalizing trailer I've ever seen in my life. Part of the brilliance is that you know this winds up with gore and mayhem but yet he seems so vulnerable and innocent. The transition will be epic. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
My avatar approves.
That's also probably the most tantalizing trailer I've ever seen in my life. Part of the brilliance is that you know this winds up with gore and mayhem but yet he seems so vulnerable and innocent. The transition will be epic.
Originally Posted by BigRichard:
Definitely thought it looked good. I absolutely loved Heath Ledger as The Joker but it always pissed me off that we never got to see how he got to that point.
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Some of the mental illness aspects of this look just a hair too damned real.
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Only thing I don't really care for is the Joker almost seems..... sympathetic?
No one just wakes up one day and says, "I want to be a villain." Everyone has a backstory, and most of them are probably tragic or twisted. Villains with no motivation are less interesting, as are villains who can't encourage at least a little sympathy from the audience. That's what made Thanos so interesting, because he actually believed that the Snapture was a good thing for the universe. Ditto for Magneto. (Not like this is a new thing, though, they've been doing it as far back as Danny DeVito's Penguin.) The bottom line is, everyone has a tragic backstory in life, but it's what you choose to do with that: do you choose to become a villain? In the same manner that movies show how a superpower isn't inherently good or evil, it's what you choose to do with it. [Reply]
Phillips and Phoenix are delivering a true character study — a stand-alone comic-book movie that looks more like a gritty Martin Scorsese portrait of a cackling outcast as he begins to crack up on the city’s mean streets.
This seems to be the stuff of pre-“Casino” Robert De Niro, who fittingly happens to co-star in “Joker.”
This is the textured take of a searching loser coming apart on the urban fringes — a wannabe stand-up celebrity who seems to share cinematic DNA with two iconic Scorsese/De Niro creations: Travis Bickle (“Taxi Driver”) and Rupert Pupkin (“The King of Comedy”). [Reply]
eh, can't say the trailer did much for me. To be honest, looks a little boring. Guess we will see.
I noticed some here are comparing it to Scorsese flicks. That might explain why the trailer didn't really appeal to me. Never been a fan of his style. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 007:
eh, can't say the trailer did much for me. To be honest, looks a little boring. Guess we will see.
I noticed some here are comparing it to Scorsese flicks. That might explain why the trailer didn't really appeal to me. Never been a fan of his style.
Scorsese? You don't like...Scorsese? Goodfellas? Gangs of New York? Taxi Driver? The Departed? Wolf of Wall Street? Quiz Show? Casino? I'm not sure there's anyone I'm more fond of. The guy can take an average story and make an epic masterpiece out of it.
Backstory-based movies like The Joker have so much potential and this guy can masterfully develop every last part. [Reply]
