Everybody bitching about comics and what they think is a new trend in taking on social justice issues is laughable. What the fuck do you think comics were doing throughout their entire existence? Other than maybe the early Superman and early Batman, they were taking on social issues of the time. Stan Lee himself said so many times that he was trying to bring awareness of the issues forward. I guess you hate Stan Lee for that? Shit, wait, Superman was actually kicking Nazi ass before the US even declared war. A large number of Americans supported Germany before we joined, so Siegel and Shuster must have been pissing those people off with their view of social issues.
Deep down why do you care if the newest version of MJ isn't white? Why is that so upsetting to you? Seriously, why?
Peter goes to a fucking inner city school and somehow historically all his classmates are fucking white... that is the least realistic thing in a series about a human gaining spider power.
This came up in the spiderverse thread too. Somebody was pissed that Doc Oc in an alternate universe was female, and that iconic characters shouldn't be altered, yet they weren't bitching at all about the giant fucking dragon version of Green Goblin.
For fuck sake, the X-Men comics are nearly entirely about treating everybody as equal and not judging them by their appearance or physical abilities. WTF do you think that is about? [Reply]
Originally Posted by bowener:
Everybody bitching about comics and what they think is a new trend in taking on social justice issues is laughable. What the fuck do you think comics were doing throughout their entire existence? Other than maybe the early Superman and early Batman, they were taking on social issues of the time. Stan Lee himself said so many times that he was trying to bring awareness of the issues forward. I guess you hate Stan Lee for that? Shit, wait, Superman was actually kicking Nazi ass before the US even declared war. A large number of Americans supported Germany before we joined, so Siegel and Shuster must have been pissing those people off with their view of social issues.
Deep down why do you care if the newest version of MJ isn't white? Why is that so upsetting to you? Seriously, why?
Peter goes to a fucking inner city school and somehow historically all his classmates are fucking white... that is the least realistic thing in a series about a human gaining spider power.
This came up in the spiderverse thread too. Somebody was pissed that Doc Oc in an alternate universe was female, and that iconic characters shouldn't be altered, yet they weren't bitching at all about the giant fucking dragon version of Green Goblin.
For fuck sake, the X-Men comics are nearly entirely about treating everybody as equal and not judging them by their appearance or physical abilities. WTF do you think that is about?
Perfect. I loved the recent X-Men Red run btw. [Reply]
It's kind of like people bitching about progressive politics and 'sjw bullshit' on Star Trek Discovery. Like...hello. Star Trek. Progressive since 1965. [Reply]
Originally Posted by keg in kc:
It's kind of like people bitching about progressive politics and 'sjw bullshit' on Star Trek Discovery. Like...hello. Star Trek. Progressive since 1965.
I think Bill Shatner's penis was nicknamed "Progressive". [Reply]
Originally Posted by youtube comments:
Fury: "So nice to finally meet you, Spider-Man."
Peter: "You're Nick Fury..."
Fury: "I DON'T REMEMBER ASKING YOU A GOD DAMN THING!"
Originally Posted by bowener:
Everybody bitching about comics and what they think is a new trend in taking on social justice issues is laughable. What the fuck do you think comics were doing throughout their entire existence? Other than maybe the early Superman and early Batman, they were taking on social issues of the time. Stan Lee himself said so many times that he was trying to bring awareness of the issues forward. I guess you hate Stan Lee for that? Shit, wait, Superman was actually kicking Nazi ass before the US even declared war. A large number of Americans supported Germany before we joined, so Siegel and Shuster must have been pissing those people off with their view of social issues.
Deep down why do you care if the newest version of MJ isn't white? Why is that so upsetting to you? Seriously, why?
Peter goes to a fucking inner city school and somehow historically all his classmates are fucking white... that is the least realistic thing in a series about a human gaining spider power.
This came up in the spiderverse thread too. Somebody was pissed that Doc Oc in an alternate universe was female, and that iconic characters shouldn't be altered, yet they weren't bitching at all about the giant fucking dragon version of Green Goblin.
For fuck sake, the X-Men comics are nearly entirely about treating everybody as equal and not judging them by their appearance or physical abilities. WTF do you think that is about?
You know how I know you are an idiot? You conflate SJW issues with the Civil Rights movement. [Reply]
Originally Posted by keg in kc:
It's kind of like people bitching about progressive politics and 'sjw bullshit' on Star Trek Discovery. Like...hello. Star Trek. Progressive since 1965.
Another idiot. Conflating SJW bullcrap with the Civil Rights movement. [Reply]
Of course comics have always had the socialist/progressive undertones. I didn't read them to find my political center.
I think people finally had enough when they decided to start just straight gender swapping the most popular characters. Why did Iron Man, Thor, Wolverine, any of them have to become female at the Secret Wars reset? You want a female Iron Man, develop a new character and have one, but don't nuke a long time favorite in the name of femininity or some SJW agenda. Do some work and actually MAKE a new character that can compete with/against the old one. Anyone not named Logan trying to be Wolverine is nothing but a poser, no matter the sex, and that includes X-23 (and she's pretty awesome). Goes for all the old time, long time characters. IMHO, of course. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bowser:
Of course comics have always had the socialist/progressive undertones. I didn't read them to find my political center.
I think people finally had enough when they decided to start just straight gender swapping the most popular characters. Why did Iron Man, Thor, Wolverine, any of them have to become female at the Secret Wars reset? You want a female Iron Man, develop a new character and have one, but don't nuke a long time favorite in the name of femininity or some SJW agenda. Do some work and actually MAKE a new character that can compete with/against the old one. Anyone not named Logan trying to be Wolverine is nothing but a poser, no matter the sex, and that includes X-23 (and she's pretty awesome). Goes for all the old time, long time characters. IMHO, of course.
did you copy and paste this from another post of yours (ages ago)? i only ask as i feel i have read it before, and only remember it because i totally agreed with said post.
either that, or i am for an infinite number of times, asking you this same question over and over? :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by Nickhead:
did you copy and paste this from another post of yours (ages ago)? i only ask as i feel i have read it before, and only remember it because i totally agreed with said post.
either that, or i am for an infinite number of times, asking you this same question over and over? :-)
Not an infinite number, . . . infinity is not a number. . . . Luckily, out of 14,000,605 timelines, this is the one timeline where you get an answer!! [Reply]
Originally Posted by keg in kc:
It's kind of like people bitching about progressive politics and 'sjw bullshit' on Star Trek Discovery. Like...hello. Star Trek. Progressive since 1965.
There's a big difference between raising issues of social justice and being an SJW.
Women's suffrage, the civil rights movement, slavery: all legit social justice issues.
Free tampons, imaginary genders, and fanatical hatred of anything dissimilar are completely different.
SJW's are a complete perversion of liberalism and "tolerance." It's not a one sided problem: republicans hijacked morality in the 80's and 90's to suppress free speech in music and media. Now the Dems are. [Reply]