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Nzoner's Game Room>The Myth that Nelson Sucks
Bump 05:28 PM 10-22-2018
were any of those 6 targets last night drops? cause AJ Green was dropping that shit.
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RunKC 05:45 PM 10-22-2018
Nelson got raped so badly last week in New England that he had to literally tackle Josh Gordon. Still got a 40+ yard PI.
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staylor26 05:47 PM 10-22-2018
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Nelson got raped so badly last week in New England that he had to literally tackle Josh Gordon. Still got a 40+ yard PI.
Oh I guess he’s the first corner to get beat by an elite talent like Gordon
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RunKC 05:52 PM 10-22-2018
You act like this dude is good staylor. He’s not bad, but he isn’t good.

He’s a meh player that the Chiefs have no business paying after this year.

Scandrick is just as good as him.
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staylor26 05:59 PM 10-22-2018
I swear it’s like some of you don’t realize that guys like Cooper, Mitchell, and even Gaines were all starters after they left here.

Do you even watch the rest of the league?
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bigjosh 06:03 PM 10-22-2018
Originally Posted by staylor26:
I swear it’s like some of you don’t realize that guys like Cooper, Mitchell, and even Gaines were all starters after they left here.

Do you even watch the rest of the league?


Cooper and Mitchell are still playing better than Nelson .


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staylor26 06:07 PM 10-22-2018
Originally Posted by bigjosh:
Cooper and Mitchell are still playing better than Nelson .


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Cooper has played in two games this year and is a backup at this point.

Mitchell has been struggling all year and he’s PFF’s #78 corner. Nelson is having a much better season.

Thanks for proving my point. You guys don’t have a ****ing clue about the rest of the NFL.
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bigjosh 06:15 PM 10-22-2018
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Cooper has played in two games this year and is a backup at this point.

Mitchell has been struggling all year and he’s PFF’s #78 corner. Nelson is having a much better season.

Thanks for proving my point. You guys don’t have a ****ing clue about the rest of the NFL.


Says the guy that failed to mention that Mitchell broke his fucking arm 3 weeks ago, and cooper has been out with a hamstring for 4 weeks.
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staylor26 06:19 PM 10-22-2018
Originally Posted by bigjosh:
Says the guy that failed to mention that Mitchell broke his ****ing arm 3 weeks ago, and cooper has been out with a hamstring for 4 weeks.
I’m well aware of Coopers injury, but I forgot about Mitchell’s.

That doesn’t change the fact that what I said was true.
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Chris Meck 06:21 PM 10-22-2018
Let me explain what I'm saying again-you're not understanding me.

64 "starting" CB's, right? In base defense.

Nelson's rating out at #48.

so, bottom quarter of starting CB's. That's probably about right. He doesn't suck, he's just being asked to do things beyond his ability. He's kind of/sort of held his own, but he gets PI's a lot and does get burnt some. He's not a legit #2. There are a LOT of starting CB's in the league that also aren't up to the task. Hence-he's #48. That's not really that big of a stretch to understand, right? Relative to others, he's #48. Out of #64.

Add in the nickel corners and that number looks better, but considering that a lot of #2's aren't all that great, then how good are the #3's on those teams? So in other words-that ranking doesn't really SAY anything at all, does it? Not really. His size and physical limitations are what they are. He's miscast as a #2. He's a slot guy, #3 or #4 CB on a PLUS DEFENSE.

Ok? OK.
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NJChiefsFan 06:08 PM 10-22-2018
Originally Posted by staylor26:
I swear it’s like some of you don’t realize that guys like Cooper, Mitchell, and even Gaines were all starters after they left here.

Do you even watch the rest of the league?
Gaines has been pretty bad for Buffalo, including a number of his classic penalties.
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staylor26 06:10 PM 10-22-2018
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan:
Gaines has been pretty bad for Buffalo, including a number of his classic penalties.
I’m not saying he hasn’t. It’s actually pretty much my point. As bad as everybody thinks those guys are/were they are still NFL starters.

Hence why saying Nelson is a #4 corner at best is fucking retarded.
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htismaqe 06:05 PM 10-22-2018
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Simply put, it’s wrong.




He’s having a pretty good season, and at least half of CP thinks he sucks. It’s a shame.
Last night was the first night he wasn't committing DPI on a half dozen plays. It's not black or white. The truth actually lies in the middle, as it usually does.
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ChiefsFanatic 06:09 PM 10-22-2018
Last night Dalton threw to Green almost exclusively. Nelson wasn't covering Green. So, saying he graded out the best in that particular game means nothing.

The best thing I can say about Nelson is he doesn't get abused as often as Fuller does. Fuller is just trash. I don't know how he was rated so highly last year, because he is slow, his hips are slow, and he seems to have questionable technique.

I cannot be the only person watching the all-22 noticing he gets toasted whether he lines up inside or out.

So, in as far as he isn't Fuller, Nelson is OK.

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kysirsoze 10:09 PM 10-22-2018
Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic:
Last night Dalton threw to Green almost exclusively. Nelson wasn't covering Green. So, saying he graded out the best in that particular game means nothing.
Of course Dalton is going to key on Green. That said, if you're not going to give a CB credit when they aren't targeted, then you aren't being fair. If Nelson's assignment was open, he would get targets. Clearly, more often than not, he wasn't.
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