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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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Discuss Thrower 01:55 PM 08-25-2020
Originally Posted by KCUnited:
Right but my point was that I'm not seeing many people even pretending to care when we're facing a potential crisis. I've read more about the .00001% possibility for long term respiratory damage in kids due to Covid than the mental health impacts on millions.
Because the former serves an agenda and the latter doesn't.

It's not rocket surgery.
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suzzer99 01:55 PM 08-25-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Ok, so we're readily admitting this wasn't about "science" but about politics?
Apparently.

I'm just saying for the people who say we screwed up and should have just isolated the elderly and at risk - apparently that was not an option that was ever going to fly in the US. It doesn't seem like any other country has tried to do that either.
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suzzer99 01:56 PM 08-25-2020

Immunity to viruses is not binary. It’s not 0% or 100%.

We have immune memory and like regular memory, immune memory must learn.

Just as repetition is beneficial to learning or to building muscle memory, repetition helps build immune memory...

2/

— Michael Mina (@michaelmina_lab) August 25, 2020


So while repeat infections may sound scary, they are a natural and expected part of building immune memory against many viruses like coronaviruses.

The big question is whether people are likely to transmit upon second or third infections...

7/

— Michael Mina (@michaelmina_lab) August 25, 2020


So while some transmission could theoretically occur, and I am surmising, it is likely that transmission will be greatly curtailed during second or third reinfections and instead these will serve primarily as immune boosting events rather than forces of onward transmission.

9/9

— Michael Mina (@michaelmina_lab) August 25, 2020


Good thread.
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TLO 03:41 PM 08-25-2020
One of the highest days of cases in our county since our meat packing plant outbreak. 11 confirmed and 13 probables.

Not sure why we're still dealing in probables at this point, but whatever.
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sedated 03:49 PM 08-25-2020
Originally Posted by KCUnited:
Right but my point was that I'm not seeing many people even pretending to care when we're facing a potential crisis. I've read more about the .00001% possibility for long term respiratory damage in kids due to Covid than the mental health impacts on millions.
I don't think that was Lew's point.

Mental health has always been a point made by people that want to avoid lockdowns and remote learning.

Lew's point was that those same people also side with those that want to cut social programs that deal with mental health.
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O.city 04:05 PM 08-25-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
One of the highest days of cases in our county since our meat packing plant outbreak. 11 confirmed and 13 probables.

Not sure why we're still dealing in probables at this point, but whatever.
Hospital numbers in Springfield dropped a good bit over the weekend. Down to 82 from 105 hospitalized and down 10 to 20 in ICU.

Cases spiking a bit, but the colleges are all back in so thats where they're saying they're getting those #'s from.
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eDave 04:07 PM 08-25-2020
AZ is now approving gyms, bars, and theater to re-open.
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O.city 04:07 PM 08-25-2020
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....23.20179796v1

Memory B cells last once antibodies wane. Huh, almost like we don't need to rewrite the text books.
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TLO 04:37 PM 08-25-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Hospital numbers in Springfield dropped a good bit over the weekend. Down to 82 from 105 hospitalized and down 10 to 20 in ICU.

Cases spiking a bit, but the colleges are all back in so thats where they're saying they're getting those #'s from.
We've been steady at 17 hospitalizations and a handful in ICU.

We also have college back in session so I wouldn't be surprised if that's where we're getting some of our numbers as well.
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TLO 04:41 PM 08-25-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....23.20179796v1

Memory B cells last once antibodies wane. Huh, almost like we don't need to rewrite the text books.
Did I read that correctly that IgG antibodies also wane fairly quickly?
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htismaqe 04:49 PM 08-25-2020
Originally Posted by sedated:
I don't think that was Lew's point.

Mental health has always been a point made by people that want to avoid lockdowns and remote learning.

Lew's point was that those same people also side with those that want to cut social programs that deal with mental health.
That's a pretty broad brush there. I'm sure there's plenty but it's not all.
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Donger 04:53 PM 08-25-2020
1,150 deaths today so far. Hopefully just getting caught up from the weekend.
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KCUnited 04:56 PM 08-25-2020
Originally Posted by sedated:
I don't think that was Lew's point.

Mental health has always been a point made by people that want to avoid lockdowns and remote learning.

Lew's point was that those same people also side with those that want to cut social programs that deal with mental health.
Right, I’m saying I’ve not seen these mass mental health people using it as a weapon to avoid lockdowns or remote learning. I’ve not seen much of a mental health voice at all during an unprecedented time when no one has ever been asked to self isolate for this duration and as a result we’re reaching a crisis.

That’s anecdotal on my part so please link me to the regular national mental health pressers happening or these groups using it to combat our Covid response.
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TLO 05:16 PM 08-25-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
1,150 deaths today so far. Hopefully just getting caught up from the weekend.
1394 a week ago today. Safe bet we'll come in under that number today.
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Chief Pagan 06:52 PM 08-25-2020
Originally Posted by KCUnited:
Right but my point was that I'm not seeing many people even pretending to care when we're facing a potential crisis. I've read more about the .00001% possibility for long term respiratory damage in kids due to Covid than the mental health impacts on millions.
Its not a binary option between everything being opened up or everything being closed. As a society, we could make choices.

Personally, I think we should keep gyms, bars, dine in restaurants and fans at live sporting events closed and focus on opening up schools.
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