Originally Posted by ChiTown:
Masks work and Vaccines work. I don't get how people get so twisted over this stuff, but that's life, isn't it?
People don't value education in this country. It's not a surprise that this country has fallen behind quite a few others in education and literacy. Generally speaking (but not always) I'd say there's a positive correlation between believing in the use of masks/vaccines and intelligence/education. Of course there are outliers, there are "educated" people that somehow are still anti-vax. [Reply]
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
People don't value education in this country. It's not a surprise that this country has fallen behind quite a few others in education and literacy. Generally speaking (but not always) I'd say there's a positive correlation between believing in the use of masks/vaccines and intelligence/education. Of course there are outliers, there are "educated" people that somehow are still anti-vax.
Yeah, that's the strange one to me. I don't know about this particular situation, but I know that, in general, the whole "vaccines cause autism" take is far more prevalent among high-income, high-education households. It's a weird one to wrap your mind around. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaFace:
While this place often drives me nuts, I do find it fascinating to have so many different perspectives. In this case, this drives home the fact that "anti maskers" and "anti vaxxers" are not at all the same people. I personally am "pro whatever it takes to stop killing people and get back to normal," which means I'm in favor of both masks and vaccines. But there are people like you who are anti mask and pro vaccine while there are others who are (kind of oddly, in my opinion) pro mask but anti vaccine.
It's really hard for me to reconcile the discrepancy, but it's clear that it's a discrepancy that is present on both sides of the spectrum.
This is a great example of why it irritates me when people make overall assumptions about a person based on one specific stance on Covid.
It doesn't matter where you live, who you voted for, or your level of education. There are people all across societies spectrums that agree and disagree on this topic.
Like most everything else I am fairly moderate on my stance with Covid. I don't necessarily want to take the vaccine but I will because we EXPECT our employees to do it and I wont be a hypocrite. And fuck it whatever it takes to get this shit behind us. [Reply]
There are too many question marks with vaccines, COVID in general and the natural reality of a corrupt government for me to ever trust what they are saying. With all the non COVID deaths that were then labelled as COVID related, the states and hospitals receiving large amounts of money for COVID cases, the rush of the vaccine and their push to control everything leave me very skeptical about this whole thing. And on top of that, one of the top self-claimed vaccine experts, "Dr Bill Gates", has already come out and said in 2011 in a CNN interview that vaccines can be useful for depopulation. Absolutely insane.
Even as someone who was extremely sick as a child, heavily asthmatic and a person who routinely gets sick every year with the flu, I am not concerned. Why? Because I have worked to get into very good shape, have put on thirty pounds of muscle and have improved my diet. I have honestly never felt better in my life.
It is disappointing the thought of, as some suggested in previous pages, having some sort of checkpoints to see if people have taken the vaccine in order to go places and do anything. That to me is full on 1984 over a respiratory virus, which the FDA has already come out and said that the testy is not fully reliable. These definitely are troubling times. [Reply]
Originally Posted by jcchief234:
There are too many question marks with vaccines, COVID in general and the natural reality of a corrupt government for me to ever trust what they are saying. With all the non COVID deaths that were then labelled as COVID related, the states and hospitals receiving large amounts of money for COVID cases, the rush of the vaccine and their push to control everything leave me very skeptical about this whole thing. And on top of that, one of the top self-claimed vaccine experts, "Dr Bill Gates", has already come out and said in 2011 in a CNN interview that vaccines can be useful for depopulation. Absolutely insane.
Even as someone who was extremely sick as a child, heavily asthmatic and a person who routinely gets sick every year with the flu, I am not concerned. Why? Because I have worked to get into very good shape, have put on thirty pounds of muscle and have improved my diet. I have honestly never felt better in my life.
It is disappointing the thought of, as some suggested in previous pages, having some sort of checkpoints to see if people have taken the vaccine in order to go places and do anything. That to me is full on 1984 over a respiratory virus, which the FDA has already come out and said that the testy is not fully reliable. These definitely are troubling times.
Welcome to the board. The beer's outside in a cooler and help yourself to the chip and dip. [Reply]
Originally Posted by jcchief234:
There are too many question marks with vaccines, COVID in general and the natural reality of a corrupt government for me to ever trust what they are saying. With all the non COVID deaths that were then labelled as COVID related, the states and hospitals receiving large amounts of money for COVID cases, the rush of the vaccine and their push to control everything leave me very skeptical about this whole thing. And on top of that, one of the top self-claimed vaccine experts, "Dr Bill Gates", has already come out and said in 2011 in a CNN interview that vaccines can be useful for depopulation. Absolutely insane.
Even as someone who was extremely sick as a child, heavily asthmatic and a person who routinely gets sick every year with the flu, I am not concerned. Why? Because I have worked to get into very good shape, have put on thirty pounds of muscle and have improved my diet. I have honestly never felt better in my life.
It is disappointing the thought of, as some suggested in previous pages, having some sort of checkpoints to see if people have taken the vaccine in order to go places and do anything. That to me is full on 1984 over a respiratory virus, which the FDA has already come out and said that the testy is not fully reliable. These definitely are troubling times.
A self-described “heavily asthmatic” individual... a.k.a. in the high risk population refusing to get the vaccine.
We are supposed to endlessly continue to wear masks to protect these types of people?
Not happening... the masks are gone very soon. [Reply]
Yes Stevieray I wore a mask. I work in healthcare.
Nice job trying to bait people with that question, somehow using that logic to say masks don't work. You also asked me this same question in summer when I got COVID at WORK.
I guess you missed the headlines about the shitty way we have to use PPE in healthcare with a severely contagious virus. I have to wear the same mask for 5 days before I'm allowed a new one. I got COVID at work. It's no wonder healthcare workers are getting this virus consistently.
I should be getting the vaccine at the end of December or first part of January. [Reply]
Originally Posted by stevieray:
I asked you privately to respect your privacy.
You asked me the same question this summer (I explained it then). And you again openly asked me in this thread in recent weeks. I didn't respond, so you messaged me the same question. What's the purpose of this, so you have an argument against masks?
I explained the terrible use of PPE in healthcare from the start of the pandemic and still currently being used in healthcare from frontline hospital workers to rehabs across this entire country. Nothing we are doing with PPE is how it's supposed to be used for best practices. I had a coworker, who due to his political feelings, tried to hide his original COVID symptoms while working 2 days. I was exposed quite frequently to him but mask use at least likely lessened my viral load and produced a mild case for me.
Please let us know your educated thoughts on the subject if you'd like to have an actual discussion or are genuinely curious what those of us in healthcare are dealing with on a daily basis. But if you're here to tout some bullshit agenda, feel free to volunteer at the nearest hospital taking care of COVID patients (we can skip your PPE). [Reply]
