In order to prevent us wasting precious years of Patrick Mahomes' career, Veach needs to work some magic this offseason. What's your advice for him? [Reply]
Going into the draft at pick 31 without a capable tackle on the roster is a bad idea.
It’d be different if we were picking top 15. But too risky otherwise. That’s how you end up trading a massive haul for a Laremy Tunsil level of LT, as Houston did a couple years back. [Reply]
Ideally... I think you’d want to lock up a Melvin Ingram at DE, a LT like Okung, and a WR who is capable of starting at either X or slot so that way we don’t have to draft for need at 31. [Reply]
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19: Ideally... I think you’d want to lock up a Melvin Ingram at DE, a LT like Okung, and a WR who is capable of starting at either X or slot so that way we don’t have to draft for need at 31.
Dude, that’s the thing, we’re already operating under the assumption that we sign Okung and people still think we need to do just that. [Reply]
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Going into the draft at pick 31 without a capable tackle on the roster is a bad idea.
It’d be different if we were picking top 15. But too risky otherwise. That’s how you end up trading a massive haul for a Laremy Tunsil level of LT, as Houston did a couple years back.
The market is really bare dude. Okung is about your best option and he’s a brokedick [Reply]
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19: Ideally... I think you’d want to lock up a Melvin Ingram at DE, a LT like Okung, and a WR who is capable of starting at either X or slot so that way we don’t have to draft for need at 31.
You're drafting for need no matter what. Ingram and Okung are going to be known short-term answers. Just how short is the only question. It could be half a season. It could be one season. It isn't more than that though. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Dude, that’s the thing, we’re already operating under the assumption that we sign Okung and people still think we need to do just that.
Yeah, because rolling through 2021 with Okung as the ONLY LT prospect on the team is a REAAAAALLLY good idea. Hahahaha [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
You're drafting for need no matter what. Ingram and Okung are going to be known short-term answers. Just how short is the only question. It could be half a season. It could be one season. It isn't more than that though.
Well I don’t think pugs is saying you don’t fill a need. You take the BPA at a position of need, as opposed to saying “we have to draft a LT at 31 or trade up for one”. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
Yeah, because rolling through 2021 with Okung as the ONLY LT prospect on the team is a REAAAAALLLY good idea. Hahahaha
Dude, I’ve already said that you would still take a T somewhere in the first 2 rounds even with Okung.
Literally nobody is saying that you take Okung and don’t draft a T early. I’m saying it doesn’t have to be at 31 or a trade up in the 1st. You can take a guy like Little, Radunz, Hudson, or Smith at 63 or through trading up too. [Reply]
That puts to bed any Tunsil trade talk. The #Chiefs veteran options at LT are basically Russell Okung, Alejandro Vilanueva & Orlando Brown. https://t.co/wRWcNbPuyH
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Well I don’t think pugs is saying you don’t fill a need. You take the BPA at a position of need, as opposed to saying “we have to draft a LT at 31 or trade up for one”.
Teams almost always draft BPA at a position of need in either the current or next season. It's rare it's otherwise.
Sure, it frees you up to take a less polished guy but he still needs to be able to play by mid-year which doesn't exactly free you up to take a long-shot on a guy like Hudson in the 4th. You're more than likely taking a guy like Radunz or Little in the 2nd as a best-case scenario for freeing up your draft resources.
There aren't many choices right now. I will say, Okung plus a trade of a mid-round pick for Dillon is making a ton of sense right now if they can pull it off. That's the only scenario that really frees up much. [Reply]
Why not trade for Dillard, a pass pro specialist with potential untapped upside who at least has NFL experience... then grab Teven Jenkins in the second, even trading up if necessary?
I'm pretty big on Jenkins, not only is he massive and chippy, but extremely athletic for his size as well... he also has the strength to hold up day 1
Now we've got two guys with big upside battling it out... [Reply]
I'd rather get an LT in the draft and start him day 1 than get someone like Okung, spend the whole off season prepping him as a starter, watch him get hurt 4 games in and then try to get the rookie up to speed and regain Oline chemistry midseason. [Reply]