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Nzoner's Game Room>Fire Bob Sutton
petegz28 10:12 PM 10-19-2017
That is all.
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GloryDayz 01:25 PM 01-21-2019
Originally Posted by gold_and_red:



Reid getting testy, he is feeling it.
He can fuck himself. Deflecting good questions and not addressing the teams problems, only doing coach speak, is at the root of why we didn't win yesterday. His head is in the sand.
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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 01:26 PM 01-21-2019
Rex Ryan would actually be a good choice tbh
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GloryDayz 01:30 PM 01-21-2019
Originally Posted by gold_and_red:
You would think that the Pats after 9 SB appearances in such a short time would be friends with players and Hunt with 50 years of irrelevance would be more ruthless and desperate to win at all costs!
Yeah, you would think that.
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Red Dawg 01:36 PM 01-21-2019
Fucking Andy is just a bunch of blah blah blah. He said the same shit last year then he kept Sutton. Bunch of bullshit.
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BleedingRed 01:47 PM 01-21-2019
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!:
Rex Ryan would actually be a good choice tbh
You don't even have to change defensive play book, but at least you'll have a guy who has beat Tom Brady in the playoffs with fucking Mark Sanchez
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GloryDayz 01:49 PM 01-21-2019
Originally Posted by Red Dawg:
Fucking Andy is just a bunch of blah blah blah. He said the same shit last year then he kept Sutton. Bunch of bullshit.
It's the only narrative the Chiefs let emanate from circled wagons. It's the same play they always use while the natives are restless. He's at the buffet, so he's in his safe space...


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FloridaMan88 01:52 PM 01-21-2019
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!:
Rex Ryan would actually be a good choice tbh
Rex Ryan was trashing Sutton on ESPN this morning so sign me up.
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FringeNC 01:57 PM 01-21-2019
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!:
Rex Ryan would actually be a good choice tbh
Rex Ryan? It's the outdated Rex Ryan D that we run NOW. Screw that. He was a miserable failure in Buffalo. He took a good D and made it one of the worst in the league. I don't think the D works now given the rule changes.

If we have to get a retread, can we at least get one that has had a bit of recent displays of competence?
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RunKC 02:01 PM 01-21-2019
If Andy doesn’t replace Sutton, what is the point of watching next season? It isn’t going to change with that guy running the defense.
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ShowtimeSBMVP 02:04 PM 01-21-2019
Honest question who is still available? Steve Spagnuolo Anyone?
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BleedingRed 02:04 PM 01-21-2019
Originally Posted by FringeNC:
Rex Ryan? It's the outdated Rex Ryan D that we run NOW. Screw that. He was a miserable failure in Buffalo. He took a good D and made it one of the worst in the league. I don't think the D works now given the rule changes.

If we have to get a retread, can we at least get one that has had a bit of recent displays of competence?
This is wrong,

It's right in Buffalo because he tried to take 4-3 personal and fit them into a 3-4.

But his scheme isn't the problem, Bob not ADJUSTING the scheme in games is the problem.
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RaidersOftheCellar 02:19 PM 01-21-2019
Through Bob Sutton's career as a DC, 7 teams have finished in the bottom half in yds allowed, 2 in the top half. Most were in the bottom third.

His only saving grace as a coordinator is that he's had a handful of bend-don't-break years in which they didn't give up a lot of points. In the first four years in KC, his defense was top 10 in points allowed. But this had a lot more to do with their offensive ball control strategy and being near the top of the league in takeaways than fielding a defense that was well-prepared to get stops. Without the likes of prime Houston or Berry or Marcus Peters piling up turnovers, Sutton looks really bad.

His adjustments, or lack thereof, are awful. Opposing coaches ALWAYS get the best of him in the 2nd half.

I expect him to be fired. They're out of excuses. In 2016, the defense was butter, but they led the league in takeaways and minimized points scored, therefore they couldn't justify firing him. Last year, they could point to the fact that they were still middle of the pack in points allowed and showed signs of improvement in the 2nd half of the season. This year, they were awful in every way. One game that included about 12 batted passes doesn't change anything.

I'm tired of hearing that it's a personnel issue. They have MORE than enough talent to field an average or even above average defense.

Just go get Rex Ryan already.
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petegz28 02:27 PM 01-21-2019
From his first year and to hopefully his last game, Bob Sutton consistently coached a defense that consistently blew 4th quarter leads regardless of how big or small the lead was.

This year alone....
NE Game 1 43-40
Rams 54-51
Chargers 29-28
NE Game 2 36-31 in OT

I will spare him the Seattle game. But the other 4 are 4 losses in which you scored 150 points!!!

150 scored points in 4 losses. Or to put it another way 162 points allowed in 4 games!!!! That isn't sad, that's downright dreadful.
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gold_and_red 02:30 PM 01-21-2019
Originally Posted by petegz28:
From his first year and to hopefully his last game, Bob Sutton consistently coached a defense that consistently blew 4th quarter leads regardless of how big or small the lead was.

This year alone....
NE Game 1 43-40
Rams 54-51
Chargers 29-28
NE Game 2 36-31 in OT

I will spare him the Seattle game. But the other 4 are 4 losses in which you scored 150 points!!!

150 scored points in 4 losses. Or to put it another way 162 points allowed in 4 games!!!! That isn't sad, that's downright dreadful.
Biggest reason he should go. Lack of situational defense. No way we can win high stakes games with this.
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petegz28 02:31 PM 01-21-2019
And really, we were a Case Keenum overthrow from losing Denver game #1!! Demarius Thomas was wide open for the winning TD and we got lucky.
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