I’ve got little issue in a vacuum with bringing Gordon back if it’s a one-year deal.
He IS a good role model in the clubhouse for young players to look up, someone to respect and emulate. He adds some things that pure stats can’t quantify.
But he needs to be used reasonably. Khalil Lee needs to be able to get a look late. Nick Heath probably deserves a look.
Brett Phillips, Bubba Starling and Ryan O’Hearn shouldn’t lose ABs because of his presence.
They shouldn’t sign another placeholder veteran if they bring Gordon back. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
I’ve got little issue in a vacuum with bringing Gordon back if it’s a one-year deal.
He IS a good role model in the clubhouse for young players to look up, someone to respect and emulate. He adds some things that pure stats can’t quantify.
But he needs to be used reasonably. Khalil Lee needs to be able to get a look late. Nick Heath probably deserves a look.
Brett Phillips, Bubba Starling and Ryan O’Hearn shouldn’t lose ABs because of his presence.
They shouldn’t sign another placeholder veteran if they bring Gordon back.
I was totally fine with bringing Gordo back with Yost. I worry that Gordo will become a 162 game man now that Matheny is heading the ship.. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower: Narrator:The Royals would go on to sign Hunter Pence
My wife: "Oh, I like him!"
Said the same thing about Chris Getz, Paulo Orlando, every other likable guy that provided no real value to the team and were eventually released. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower: Narrator:The Royals would go on to sign Hunter Pence
While I know this is somewhat tongue-in-cheek, where Pence is concerned, I'm not sure he's going to be playing any more baseball outside of playing for the Rangers. He lives in the area and I think he's finished if it's not playing for the local team. [Reply]
Cal Eldred appears to be staying on as pitching coach. I don't know much about him, but most around here seem to think he's awful. But he's apparently close with Matheny, so he's staying. What an all star staff we're building. [Reply]
If Bubba and Brett Phillips can't hit over .200 you can't run them out for 162. There's no way Dayton's going to go for that. If it's not Gordon there's almost surely going to be another veteran outfielder. Someone who can be a safety net if we have three outfielders with a .500 OPS.
Same thing is true with Nicky Lopez. If he can't hit they're going to put Whit at 2nd so you can't put him in LF. [Reply]
You know, in light of this Astros scandal, I can’t help but think back to the 2015 ALDS and how terrible Ryan Madson was against the Astros.
Makes me think maybe something was up even then. If you’re a FB-CH guy, stealing signs can crush you. Because a changeup in the zone is just a slow two-seamer when you know it’s coming.
I always kind of thought that was why he struggled against the Jays, too. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
You know, in light of this Astros scandal, I can’t help but think back to the 2015 ALDS and how terrible Ryan Madson was against the Astros.
Makes me think maybe something was up even then. If you’re a FB-CH guy, stealing signs can crush you. Because a changeup in the zone is just a slow two-seamer when you know it’s coming.
I always kind of thought that was why he struggled against the Jays, too.
Maybe Correa's error in the 8th was karma coming back to bite him after crushing that HR in the 7th. I can't find game 4 on Youtube anymore but it would be interesting to go back and watch. You would think that would be a huge advantage on Ventura as well if you know the heater is coming and when it's not. [Reply]
Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat:
Maybe Correa's error in the 8th was karma coming back to bite him after crushing that HR in the 7th. I can't find game 4 on Youtube anymore but it would be interesting to go back and watch. You would think that would be a huge advantage on Ventura as well if you know the heater is coming and when it's not.
Yeah. I can’t find full game clips, either. I want to.
The Jays were accused of stealing signs in home games a lot during that era (guy in CF, etc.)
Would explain some of why Madson got destroyed by them at home and also why Cueto was so anxious about signs he ended up tipping the signs himself with the approach he switched to. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
I personally don't care to much about this, teams have been stealing signs forever, it is what it is.
For whatever reason, I do have a problem when it's an organized program aided by the use of electronics.
Having a dude sit up there with a high-powered camera while setting up a video monitor in the tunnel to relay signs is a step WELL beyond a runner at 2b altering his lead for an offspeed pitch.