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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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O.city 10:31 AM 07-26-2020
Looks like Florida has rolled over and is on the way down.

Texas too.

Some signs on California potentially getting on a down trend but it’s early.

Missouri isn’t looking too good, may be a rough month ahead
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DaFace 10:33 AM 07-26-2020
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Projection!

Of course you changed the subject because you cannot explain why 100,000 are not dead without lockdown.
If you wonder why more people don't respond to you, it's because people who say stuff like this haven't really looked into what Sweden's people did. They didn't have mandatory lockdowns to the extent of their neighbors, but their actual citizens arguably locked down better than we did in the U.S.
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Donger 10:35 AM 07-26-2020
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Projection!

Of course you changed the subject because you cannot explain why 100,000 are not dead without lockdown.
You've yet to prove that Imperial or IHME predicted 100,000 Swedish deaths.

Are you going to, or not?
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LongSufferingToady 10:36 AM 07-26-2020
Originally Posted by KurtCobain:
Oh no we're going to catch colds at an alarming rate! Hide your great great great grandmas!
This is not a cold. My daughter-in-law's grandparents (in Houston) are in their mid-80s. They already have health issues. This is one virus they don't need because it is very virulent for their age group.

So they stayed home and self-quarantined. Not even going to church. And they've been doing this for months.

A friend of theirs, from church, decided to check on them about 10 days ago. And they let him in their house! Because he was from church and that can't be bad right?

And now Lauren's grandparents are in the ICU with COVID19, in Houston.

We're hoping and praying for them.

But this is NOT a common cold.
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Coach 10:50 AM 07-26-2020
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Projection!

Of course you changed the subject because you cannot explain why 100,000 are not dead without lockdown.
You need to provide credible evidence before shooting off comments like this.

Otherwise, nobody's going to take you seriously.

Just sayin'.
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Donger 10:57 AM 07-26-2020

THREAD: You may have seen false claims that Imperial COVID-19 "modelling envisaged Sweden paying a heavy price for its rejection of lockdown, with 40,000 Covid deaths by 1 May and almost 100,000 by June". Our researchers made no such prediction

— Imperial College (@imperialcollege) May 6, 2020

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MahomesMagic 11:36 AM 07-26-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
They predicted deaths for US at 2.2 million deaths and UK with 510,000 dead. Using their model the University of Upsalla in Sweden used their same model to predict deaths in Sweden without lockdown. This study was used by lockdown proponents in Sweden.

So technically, Ferguson didn't predict Sweden but his model could easily be tested there as it was rather simple to plug in .9 IFR and 80percent presumed infected. Remember, if your model can't be replicated its useless.

And how did Fergusons model work?

96000 dead by June?

Nope. About 6 thousand.
https://www.aier.org/article/imperia...erous-results/

The fact that Imperial College tweeted that half truth is incredible. It reminds me of the people who say Sweden admits their total strategy was wrong.
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Donger 11:43 AM 07-26-2020
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
They predicted deaths for US at 2.2 million deaths and UK with 510,000 dead. Using their model the University of Upsalla in Sweden used their same model to predict deaths in Sweden without lockdown. This study was used by lockdown proponents in Sweden.
Yes. And the task force estimated 1 to 2 million dead here WITHOUT mitigation. We did mitigate, so we'll never know if that was accurate or not. They also estimated 100,000 to 240,000 dead WITH mitigation efforts. Which, as you know, is accurate.

Why do you ignore that fact?

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
So technically, Ferguson didn't predict Sweden
There you go.
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dlphg9 12:06 PM 07-26-2020
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
They predicted deaths for US at 2.2 million deaths and UK with 510,000 dead. Using their model the University of Upsalla in Sweden used their same model to predict deaths in Sweden without lockdown. This study was used by lockdown proponents in Sweden.

So technically, Ferguson didn't predict Sweden but his model could easily be tested there as it was rather simple to plug in .9 IFR and 80percent presumed infected. Remember, if your model can't be replicated its useless.

And how did Fergusons model work?

96000 dead by June?

Nope. About 6 thousand.
https://www.aier.org/article/imperia...erous-results/

The fact that Imperial College tweeted that half truth is incredible. It reminds me of the people who say Sweden admits their total strategy was wrong.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...3WzRIFasqO0AVE

The model that Upsalla used "was based on work by Ferguson". That is not the same things as using the same model and its definitely not the same as Ferguson predicting Sweden's deaths. So youre wrong and can't think for yourself.
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PAChiefsGuy 12:09 PM 07-26-2020
Originally Posted by LongSufferingToady:
This is not a cold. My daughter-in-law's grandparents (in Houston) are in their mid-80s. They already have health issues. This is one virus they don't need because it is very virulent for their age group.

So they stayed home and self-quarantined. Not even going to church. And they've been doing this for months.

A friend of theirs, from church, decided to check on them about 10 days ago. And they let him in their house! Because he was from church and that can't be bad right?

And now Lauren's grandparents are in the ICU with COVID19, in Houston.

We're hoping and praying for them.

But this is NOT a common cold.
Unbelievable some people still think this is a common cold... Ignorance is still very prevalent in America unfortunately.
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MahomesMagic 12:11 PM 07-26-2020
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...3WzRIFasqO0AVE

The model that Upsalla used "was based on work by Ferguson". That is not the same things as using the same model and its definitely not the same as Ferguson predicting Sweden's deaths. So youre wrong and can't think for yourself.
Fergusons model depended on IFR of .9 and 80% infection of the entire population. Rather simple to test.

The fact that you dont understand how a model can be tested shows you might need to start thinking for yourself.
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kcxiv 12:42 PM 07-26-2020
Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy:
Unbelievable some people still think this is a common cold... Ignorance is still very prevalent in America unfortunately.
Yep, its shocking that so many people are hard headed! People just flat out give no fucks! Its just sad and disappointing.
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TLO 12:46 PM 07-26-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Looks like Florida has rolled over and is on the way down.

Texas too.

Some signs on California potentially getting on a down trend but it’s early.

Missouri isn’t looking too good, may be a rough month ahead
Waiting for today's DHSS update but it looks like St Louis is really taking the brunt of it right now. They've been hit the hardest throughout the state and it looks like it's going to continue.
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stumppy 01:00 PM 07-26-2020
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Michael Levitt also made a prediction. That the virus would cause 1 month excess death. The Doomers and Neil Ferguson, Royal Society said 1 year excess deaths.

We can look at Sweden and see the Doomers/ Lockdowners were dead wrong.
You know, every time you post a bunch of bullshit you'll get called on it in this thread.
JFC, the idiots come crawling out of the woodwork around here.
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MahomesMagic 01:03 PM 07-26-2020
Originally Posted by stumppy:
You know, every time you post a bunch of bullshit you'll get called on it in this thread.
JFC, the idiots come crawling out of the woodwork around here.
And you posted nothing but a string of insults. Thats how you know when someone has lost the argument. Childish behavior like yours.
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