Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
Even movies about Super Heroes, Dinosaurs and gigantic robots are somehow left wing political propaganda.
That (too much SJW, not enough good movie) is a problem for movies, both in terms of quality and in terms of financial sustainability, and is a very important topic for media discussion. How do you not see that? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
That (too much SJW, not enough good movie) is a problem for movies, both in terms of quality and in terms of financial sustainability, and is a very important topic for media discussion. How do you not see that?
Can you identify the "Too much SJW" in JP Fallen Kingdom. My feeble mind is too indoctrinated to notice. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
WTF is with you DC right wingers coming into movie threads and bringing your politics?
Every thread now has someone like you complaining about social justice warriors in movies. Even movies about Super Heroes, Dinosaurs and gigantic robots are somehow left wing political propaganda.
How about starting your own thread in DC about your political agenda? And we just talk movies in this forum.
Easy there mr. from-the-ghetto. Do you consider Variety to be a right leaning publication?
Here's a cut from their review:
...“Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom” is a liberal pulp message movie, yet it treats itself with even more sobriety. The dinosaurs, it turns out, have been targeted by Mills to be sold off to the highest bidder — yes, it’s the first cautionary dinosaur-trafficking movie — and at certain points you may find yourself ticking off the themes. Greed gone rampant among the globalized gilded class? Check. The sinister potential of genetic engineering? Check. The need to protect endangered species? Check. The privatizing of military action? Check. The eerie implications of cloning? Check. The danger of weaponized dinosaurs? Check.
I didn’t find any of this stuff especially “fun,” though the cast members certainly treat the political/genetic/social fodder as if it meant something. Chris Pratt tones down the dude factor and exudes a lean-and-mean sincerity... https://variety.com/2018/film/review...tt-1202829194/
If you disagree with any of the points made feel free to enlighten us but don't cry about facts being pointed out just because it dims your virtue signals. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
That (too much SJW, not enough good movie) is a problem for movies, both in terms of quality and in terms of financial sustainability, and is a very important topic for media discussion. How do you not see that?
This. For Christ's sake it's everywhere. I realize it will pass just like every other fad but it is currently at ridiculous proportions. [Reply]
Originally Posted by vailpass:
Greed gone rampant among the globalized gilded class? Check.
Globalized gilded classes are a conservative talking point. Ahem "Swamp rats", "Globalists", "George Soros"...any of that ring a bell?
Originally Posted by vailpass:
The sinister potential of genetic engineering? Check.
Since when is genetic engineering a leftist issue? Uh, Stem Cell research says hello, which is conservatives are generally against considering you know...abortions. It's conservatives who generally bitch about man "playing god".
Originally Posted by vailpass:
The need to protect endangered species? Check.
Well no shit, the movie's cast, as it's always been, is comprised of scientists who love dinosaurs. Them NOT feeling the need to protect them would be pretty 'effin out of character.
Originally Posted by vailpass:
The privatizing of military action? Check.
A common, played out theme that has no political implications unless you're trying to drive a narrative.
Originally Posted by vailpass:
The eerie implications of cloning? Check. The danger of weaponized dinosaurs? Check.
Not seeing the political left relationship here...
Originally Posted by vailpass:
I didn’t find any of this stuff especially “fun,” though the cast members certainly treat the political/genetic/social fodder as if it meant something. Chris Pratt tones down the dude factor and exudes a lean-and-mean sincerity... https://variety.com/2018/film/review...tt-1202829194/[/I]
If you disagree with any of the points made feel free to enlighten us but don't cry about facts being pointed out just because it dims your virtue signals.
Jesus. This guy needs to get laid. You can tell the author is a perpetual victim. [Reply]
Originally Posted by vailpass:
This. For Christ's sake it's everywhere. I realize it will pass just like every other fad but it is currently at ridiculous proportions.
Is it everywhere though?
Or has politics consumed you so much that you view everything through a red and blue lens? Because the shit posted from Vanity fair is a stretch, and the most political points are conservative talking points, not liberal. It's nonsense. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
Is it everywhere though?
Or has politics consumed you so much that you view everything through a red and blue lens? Because the shit posted from Vanity fair is a stretch, and the most political points are conservative talking points, not liberal. It's nonsense.
It is. There's no escape anymore. Entertainment's supposed to entertain. If I wanted a sermon I'd go to church. That's why the right's pushing back so hard. They're beyond sick and tired of it. They're being as nice as they can be for now [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bowser:
But it's relevant to the movie, no?
I just think you don't like what he has to say about it.
What a load of BS. Detox broke it down. Its the right wing seeing SJW everywhere in movies.
Does Hollywood slant liberal, of course. But, its been that way longer than you, me and our grandpa's have been alive. Thats nothing new. Taking umbrage when saw through the conservative bent is whats new. [Reply]
Originally Posted by banecat:
It is. There's no escape anymore. Entertainment's supposed to entertain. If I wanted a sermon I'd go to church. That's why the right's pushing back so hard. They're beyond sick and tired of it. They're being as nice as they can be for now
The right has fallen prey to the Fox News demagogue, much as the left has fallen into a CNN Trump hysteria trap.
I see a whole bunch of looking for something that isn't intended. Applying political implications to things that never intended to be political. That's the symptom of the disease known as politics. I think it's been a few weeks, maybe a month since i've last posted in D.C.
For a reason.
Are there movies that virtue signal? Of ****ing course. Has that ever NOT been the case? And is it politically motivated, or is it a reflection of our culture? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
The right has fallen prey to the Fox News demagogue, much as the left has fallen into a CNN Trump hysteria trap.
I see a whole bunch of looking for something that isn't intended. Applying political implications to things that never intended to be political. That's the symptom of the disease known as politics. I think it's been a few weeks, maybe a month since i've last posted in D.C.
For a reason.
Are there movies that virtue signal? Of ****ing course. Has that ever NOT been the case? And is it a politically motivated, or is it a reflection of our culture?
See, and now you're going through DC withdrawals. Go and purge yourself in the DC. It's the only way [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
What a load of BS. Detox broke it down. Its the right wing seeing SJW everywhere in movies.
Does Hollywood slant liberal, of course. But, its been that way longer than you, me and our grandpa's have been alive. Thats nothing new. Taking umbrage when saw through the conservative bent is whats new.
You can't possibly be so ridiculous as to believe that nonsense. [Reply]
Originally Posted by vailpass:
Easy there mr. from-the-ghetto. Do you consider Variety to be a right leaning publication?
Here's a cut from their review:
...“Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom” is a liberal pulp message movie, yet it treats itself with even more sobriety. The dinosaurs, it turns out, have been targeted by Mills to be sold off to the highest bidder — yes, it’s the first cautionary dinosaur-trafficking movie — and at certain points you may find yourself ticking off the themes. Greed gone rampant among the globalized gilded class? Check. The sinister potential of genetic engineering? Check. The need to protect endangered species? Check. The privatizing of military action? Check. The eerie implications of cloning? Check. The danger of weaponized dinosaurs? Check.
I didn’t find any of this stuff especially “fun,” though the cast members certainly treat the political/genetic/social fodder as if it meant something. Chris Pratt tones down the dude factor and exudes a lean-and-mean sincerity... https://variety.com/2018/film/review...tt-1202829194/
If you disagree with any of the points made feel free to enlighten us but don't cry about facts being pointed out just because it dims your virtue signals.
I would suspect you could go back and do similar breakdowns to a lot of older movies.
I think everyone is seeing what they want to or don't want to see. [Reply]
