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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>****OFFICIAL 2019 Saccopoo CP Mock Draft Thread****
RealSNR 11:42 AM 03-09-2019
START DATE AND TIME: March 18th, noon central

RULES:

Spoiler!


Round 1
1. Arizona - kccrow - Kyler Murray, QB, Oklahoma
2. San Francisco - CoMoChief - Josh Allen, EDGE, Kentucky
3. New York Jets - staylor26 - Nick Bosa, EDGE, Ohio State
4. Oakland - Marco Polo - Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama
5. Tampa Bay - Sfeihc - Dwayne Haskins, QB, OSU
6. New York Giants - TambaBerry - Devin White, LB, LSU
7. Jacksonville - Chief Northman - Jawaan Taylor, OT, Florida
8. Detroit - chiefscafan - Brian Burns, EDGE, Florida State
9. Buffalo - DJ's left nut - Ed Oliver, DT, Houston
10. Denver - Hoover - Rashan Gary, DT, Michigan
11. Cincinnati - Rain Man - Cody Ford, OT, Oklahoma
12. Green Bay - RealSNR - Noah Fant, TE, Iowa
13. Miami - The Franchise - Drew Lock, QB, Missouri
14. Atlanta - BossChief - Montez Sweat, DE, Mississippi State
15. Washington - htismaqe - Daniel Jones, QB, Duke
16. Carolina - Chargem - Christian Wilkins, DT, Clemson
17. New York Giants (from Cleveland) - TambaBerry - Greedy Williams, CB, LSU
18. Minnesota - RealSNR - Jonah Williams, OT, Alabama
19. Tennessee - Marco Polo - Clelin Ferrell, EDGE, Clemson
20. Pittsburgh - chiefscafan - D.K. Metcalf, WR, Ole Miss
21. Seattle - BossChief - TJ Hockenson, TE, Iowa
22. Baltimore - TambaBerry - Devin Bush, LB, Michigan
23. Houston - CoMoChief - DeAndre Baker, CB, Georgia
24. Oakland (from Chicago) - Marco Polo - Byron Murphy, CB, Washington
25. Philadelphia - Chief Northman - Andre Dillard, OT, Washington State
26. Indianapolis - staylor26 - Nasir Adderley, S, Delaware
27. Oakland (from Dallas) - Marco Polo - Jachai Polite, EDGE, Florida
28. Los Angeles Chargers - Sfeihc - Jeffery Simmons, DT, Mississippi State
29. Kansas City - DJ's left nut - Garrett Bradbury, C, NC State
30. Green Bay (from New Orleans) - RealSNR - Dexter Lawrence, DT, Clemson
31. Los Angeles Rams - Hoover - Greg Little, OT, Mississippi
32. New England - kccrow - Johnathan Abram, S, Mississippi State

Round 2
33. Arizona - kccrow - Juan Thornhill, S, Virginia
34. Indianapolis (from NYJ) - staylor26 - Josh Jacobs, RB, Alabama
35. Oakland - Marco Polo - Dalton Risner, OT, Kansas State
36. San Francisco - CoMoChief - Amani Oruwariye, CB, Penn State
37. NY Giants - TambaBerry - A.J. Brown, WR, Ole Miss
38. Jacksonville - Chief Northman - Hakeem Butler, WR, Iowa State
39. Tampa Bay - Sfeihc - Parris Campbell, WR, Ohio State
40. Buffalo - DJ's left nut - Irv Smith, TE, Alabama
41. Denver - Hoover - Trayvon Mullen, CB, Clemson
42. Cincinnati - Rain Man - Mack Wilson, ILB, Alabama
43. Detroit - chiefscafan - Taylor Rapp, S, Washington
44. Green Bay - RealSNR - Jerry Tillery, DT, Notre Dame
45. Atlanta - BossChief - Rock Ya-Sin, CB, Temple
46. Washington - htismaqe - J.J. Arcega-Whiteside, WR, Stanford
47. Carolina - Chargem - Marquise Brown, WR, Oklahoma
48. Miami - The Franchise - Justin Layne, CB, Michigan State
49. Cleveland - The Franchise - Yodny Cajuste, OT, West Virginia
50. Minnesota - RealSNR - Deionte Thompson, S, Alabama
51. Tennessee - Marco Polo - Chris Lindstrom, G, Boston College
52. Pittsburgh - chiefscafan - Julian Love, CB, Notre Dame
53. Philadelphia (from BAL) - Chief Northman - Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, S, Florida
54. Houston (from SEA) - CoMoChief - D'Andre Walker, EDGE, Georgia
55. Houston - CoMoChief - Darnell Savage, S, Maryland
56. New England (from CHI) - kccrow - Zach Allen, DE, Boston College
57. Philadelphia - Chief Northman - David Montgomery, RB, Iowa State
58. Dallas - Chargem - Riley Ridley, WR, Georgia
59. Indianapolis (from NYJ) - staylor26 - N’Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State
60. LA Chargers - Sfeihc - Deebo Samuel, WR, South Carolina
61. Kansas City - DJ's left nut - Charles Omenihu, DE, Texas
62. New Orleans - htismaqe - Joejuan Williams, CB, Vanderbilt
63. Kansas City (from LAR) - DJ's left nut - Dre'Mont Jones, DT, OSU
64. New England - kccrow - Kahale Warring, TE, San Diego State

Round 3
65. Arizona - kccrow - Jaylon Ferguson, DE, Louisiana Tech
66. Pittsburgh (from Oakland) - chiefscafan - Tre Lamar, ILB, Clemson
67. San Francisco - CoMoChief - Darrell Henderson, RB, Memphis
68. New York Jets – staylor26 - David Edwards, OT, Wisconsin
69. Jacksonville – Chief Northman - Erik McCoy, C/G, Texas A&M
70. Tampa Bay - Sfeihc - L.J. Collier, DE, TCU
71. [Forfeited] New York Giants
72. Denver - Hoover - Michael Jordan, C/G, Ohio State
73. Cincinnati – Rain Man - Chase Winovich, DE, Michigan
74. New England (from Detroit) - kccrow - Max Scharping, OT, Northern Illinois
75. Buffalo – DJ’s left nut - Michael Deiter, G, Wisconsin
76. Green Bay – RealSNR - Evan Worthington, S, Colorado
77. Washington – htismaqe - Nate Davis, OG, Charlotte
78. Carolina - Chargem - Oshane Ximines, EDGE, Old Dominion
79. Miami – The Franchise - Conner McGovern, OG, Penn State
80. Atlanta – BossChief - Mike Weber, RB, Ohio State
81. Cleveland – The Franchise - David Long, CB, Michigan
82. Minnesota – RealSNR - Elgton Jenkins, C, Mississippi State
83. Tennessee – MarcoPolo - Kaden Smith, TE, Stanford
84. Pittsburgh – chiefscafan - Justice Hill, RB, Oklahoma State
85. Seattle – BossChief - Ryan Finley, QB, North Carolina State
86. Baltimore – TambaBerry - Amani Hooker, S, Iowa
87. Houston - CoMoChief - Andy Isabella, WR, Massachusetts
88. Chicago – Rain Man - Miles Sanders, RB, Penn State
89. Detroit (from Philadelphia) - chiefscafan - Damien Harris, RB, Alabama
90. Indianapolis – staylor26 - Sean Bunting, CB, Central Michigan
91. Dallas – Chargem - Isaiah Buggs, DL, Alabama
92. Los Angeles Chargers – Sfeihc - Kaleb McGary, OT, Washington
93. Kansas City – DJ’s left nut - Germaine Pratt, LB, North Carolina State
94. New York Jets (from New Orleans) – staylor26 - Lonnie Johnson Jr., CB, Kentucky
95. Los Angeles Rams - Hoover - Jamel Dean, CB, Auburn
96. New York Giants (from New England) – TambaBerry - Will Grier, QB, West Virginia
97. Washington - htismaqe - Joe Jackson, EDGE/DE, Miami
98. New England - kccrow - Gerald Willis, DT, Miami
99. Jacksonville (from LA Rams) – Chief Northman - Joe Giles-Harris, ILB, Duke
100. Los Angeles Rams - Hoover - T.J. Edwards, ILB, Wisconsin
101. Carolina - Chargem - Ben Powers, G, Oklahoma
102. New England - kccrow - Miles Boykin, WR, Notre Dame
103. Baltimore - TambaBerry - Jalen Hurd, WR, Baylor

Round 4
104. Arizona - kccrow - Khalen Saunders, DT, Western Illinois
105. San Francisco - CoMoChief - Christian Miller, EDGE, Alabama
106. NY Jets – staylor26 - Mecole Hardman, WR, Georgia
107. Oakland – Marco Polo - Vosean Joseph, LB, Florida
108. Tampa Bay – Sfeihc - Tytus Howard, OT, Alabama State
109. New York Giants – TambaBerry - Will Harris, SS, Boston College
110. Jacksonville – Chief Northman - Devin Singletary, RB, FAU
111. Cincinnati – Rain Man - Bobby Evans, OT, Oklahoma
112. Detroit - chiefscafan - Hunter Renfrow, WR, Clemson
113. Buffalo – DJ’s left nut - Blake Cashman, LB, Minnesota
114. Baltimore (from Denver) - TambaBerry - Josh Oliver, TE, San Jose State
115. Green Bay – RealSNR - Emanuel Hall, WR, Missouri
116. Carolina – Chargem - Drue Tranquill, LB, Notre Dame
117. Miami – The Franchise - Anthony Nelson, DE, Iowa
118. Atlanta - BossChief - Terrill Hanks, LB, New Mexico State
119. Green Bay (from Washington) - RealSNR - Jordan Brown, CB, South Dakota State
120. Cleveland – The Franchise - Mike Bell, S, Fresno State
121. Minnesota - RealSNR - Renell Wren, DT, Arizona State
122. Tennessee – Marco Polo - Kelvin Harmon, WR, North Carolina State
123. Pittsburgh - chiefscafan - Porter Gustin , LB/DE, USC
124. Baltimore - TambaBerry - Austin Bryant, EDGE, Clemson
125. Seattle - BossChief - Ben Banogu, EDGE, TCU
126. Denver (from Houston) - Hoover - Caleb Wilson, TE, UCLA
127. Chicago – Rain Man - Jace Sternberger, TE, Texas A&M
128. Philadelphia – Chief Northman - Daniel Wise, DT, Kansas
129. Dallas - Chargem - Dawson Knox, TE, Ole Miss
130. Indianapolis – staylor26 - Armon Watts, DT, Arkansas
131. Los Angeles Chargers - Sfeihc - Isaiah Johnson, CB, Houston
132. Buffalo (from Kansas City) – DJ’s left nut - Terry McLaurin, WR, Ohio State
133. New York Giants (from New Orleans) – Tambaberry - Trey Pipkins, OT, Sioux Falls
134. Los Angeles Rams - Hoover - Ross Pierschbacher, G, Alabama
135. New England - kccrow - Jarrett Stidham, QB, Auburn
136. Indianapolis – staylor26 - Shareef Miller, EDGE, Penn State
137. Dallas - Chargem - Saivion Smith, CB, Alabama
138. Atlanta - BossChief - Greg Gaines, DT, Washington
139. Philadelphia – Chief Northman - Chase Hansen, OLB, Utah

Round 5
140. Arizona - kccrow - David Sills, WR, West Virginia
141. Oakland (from NYJ) - Marco Polo - Benny Snell, Jr., RB, Kentucky
142. Pittsburgh (from OAK) - chiefscafan - Ryan Bates, OG, Penn State
143. NY Giants (from DET) - Tambaberry - Elijah Holyfield, RB, Georgia
144. NY Giants - Tambaberry - Jaquan Johnson, S, Miami
145. Cleveland (from JAX) - The Franchise - Trysten Hill, DT, Central Florida
146. Tampa Bay - Sfeihc - Maxx Crosby, EDGE, Eastern Michigan
147. Detroit - chiefscafan - Kyle Shurmur, QB, Vanderbilt
148. Buffalo - DJ's left nut - Chuma Edoga, OT, USC
149. Denver - Hoover - Marvell Tell, III, S, USC
150. Cincinnati - Rain Man - Kris Boyd, CB, Texas
151. Green Bay - RealSNR - Dennis Daley, OT, South Carolina
152. Miami - The Franchise - Daylon Mack, DT, Texas A&M
153. Atlanta - BossChief - Clayton Thorson, QB, Northwestern
154. Washington - htismaqe - Andrew Wingard, S, Wyoming
155. Carolina - Chargem - Wyatt Ray, EDGE, Boston College
156. NY Giants (from CLE) - Tambaberry - Mitch Hyatt, OL, Clemson
157. Denver (from MIN) - Hoover - Tyree Jackson, QB, Buffalo
158. Tennessee - Marco Polo - Demarcus Christmas, DT, Florida State
159. Buffalo (from OAK) - DJ's left nut - Justin Hollins, EDGE, Oregon
160. Seattle - BossChief - Chris Slayton, DT, Syracuse
161. Baltimore - Tambaberry - Isaiah Prince, OL, Ohio State
162. Houston - CoMoChief - Darwin Thompson, RB, Utah State
163. Chicago - Rain Man - Cole Tracy, K, LSU
164. Philadelphia - Chief Northman - Michael Jackson, CB, Miami
165. Indianapolis - staylor26 - Beau Benzschawel, OG, Wisconsin
166. Dallas - Chargem - Sutton Smith, EDGE, Northern Illinois
167. LA Chargers - Sfeihc - Marquise Blair, S, Utah
168. Kansas City - DJ's left nut - Mark Fields, CB, Clemson
169. New Orleans - htismaqe - Alize Mack, TE, Notre Dame
170. LA Rams - Hoover - Terry Beckner, Jr. DT, Missouri
171. Cleveland (from NE) - The Franchise - Ben Burr-Kirven, LB, Washington
172. NY Giants (COMP) - Tambaberry - Lil'Jordan Humphrey WR, Texas
173. Atlanta (COMP) - BossChief - William Sweet, OT, North Carolina
174. Washington (COMP) - htismaqe - Penny Hart, WR, Georgia State

Round 6
175. Arizona – kccrow - Bryce Love, RB, Stanford
176. Pittsburgh (from Oakland) – chiefscafan - Alijah Holder, CB, Stanford
177. San Francisco – CoMoChief - Dru Samia, OG, Oklahoma
178. New Orleans (from NY Jets) – htismaqe - Cortez Broughton, DL, Cincinnati
179. Jacksonville – Chief Northman - Ricky Walker, DL, Virgina Tech
180. Arizona (from Tampa Bay) – kccrow - Kingsley Keke, DT, Texas A&M
181. New York Giants – Tambaberry - Kendall Sheffield, CB, Ohio St
182. Buffalo – DJ’s left nut - Trayveon Williams, RB, Texas A&M
183. Denver – Hoover - Andre James, OT/G, UCLA
184. Cincinnati – Rain Man - Antoine Wesley, WR, Texas Tech
185. Detroit – chiefscafan - Ryan Pope, OT, San Diego State
186. Green Bay – RealSNR - Mike Edwards, S, Kentucky
187. Atlanta – BossChief - Te’Von Coney, LB, Notre Dame
188. [Forfeited] Washington
189. Carolina – Chargem - Blace Brown, CB, Troy
190. Miami – The Franchise - Olisaemeka Udoh, OT, Elon
191. Cleveland – The Franchise - Hamp Cheevers, CB, Boston College
192. Minnesota – RealSNR - Rodney Anderson, RB, Oklahoma
193. Baltimore (from Tennessee) – Tambaberry - Carl Granderson, EDGE, Wyoming
194. Pittsburgh – chiefscafan - Zach Gentry, TE, Michigan
195. Baltimore – Tambaberry - David Long Jr., LB, West Virginia
196. Green Bay (from Seattle) – RealSNR - Isaac Nauta, TE, Georgia
197. Houston – CoMoChief - Jalen Jelks, EDGE, Oregon
198. New York Jets (from Chicago) – staylor26 - Albert Huggins, DT, Clemson
199. Philadelphia – Chief Northman - Jakobi Meyers, WR, North Carolina State
200. Cincinnati (from Dallas) – Rain Man - Preston Williams, WR, Colorado State
201. Indianapolis – staylor26 - Jahlani Tavai, LB, Hawaii
202. Los Angeles Chargers – Sfeihc - Cameron Smith, LB, USC
203. Kansas City – DJ’s left nut - Anthony Ratliff-Williams, WR, UNC
204. New Orleans – htismaqe - Brett Rypien, QB, Boise St
205. Los Angeles Rams – Hoover - Jon'Vea Johnson, WR, Toledo
206. Detroit (from New England) – chiefscafan - Terronne Prescod, OG, North Carolina State
207. New England – kccrow - Dontavius Russell, DT, Auburn
208. Washington – htismaqe - Foster Moreau, TE, LSU
209. Pittsburgh (from Arizona) - chiefscafan - Darryl Johnson, OLB/DE, North Carolina A &T
210. Tampa Bay (from Philadelphia) – Sfeihc - Sheldrick Redwine, S, Miami
211. Minnesota – RealSNR - Drew Sample, TE, Washington
212. Cincinnati – Rain Man - Dax Raymond, TE, Utah State
213. Cincinnati – Rain Man - Easton Stick, QB, North Dakota State
214. San Francisco – CoMoChief - Jamal Peters, CB, Mississippi State
215. Cincinnati – Rain Man - Bobby Okereke, LB, Stanford
216. Kansas City – DJ’s left nut - Saquon Hampton, S, Rutgers

Round 7
217. Tampa Bay - Sfeihc - Ryquell Armstead, RB, Temple
218. Kansas City (from SF) - DJ's left nut - Stanley Morgan Jr, WR, Nebraska
219. NY Jets - staylor26 - Iosua Opeta, OG, Weber State
220. Oakland - Marco Polo - Dakota Allen, LB, Texas Tech
221. Pittsburgh (from TB) - chiefscafan - Ugochukwu Amadi, S, Oregon
222. NY Giants - Tambaberry - Jazz Ferguson, WR, Northwestern State
223. Cleveland (from JAX) - The Franchise - Khari Willis, S, Michigan State
224. Philadelphia (from DEN) - Chief Northman - Lamont Gaillard, C, Georgia
225. Cincinnati - Rain Man - Matt Gay, K, Utah
226. Detroit - chiefscafan - Tommy Sweeney, TE, Boston College
227. Buffalo - DJ's left nut - Corey Ballentine, CB, Washburn
228. Green Bay - RealSNR - Shaq Calhoun, G, Mississippi State
229. Washington - htismaqe - Devine Ozigbo, RB, Nebraska
230. Carolina - Chargem - Tyler Jones, OT, NC State
231. Detroit (from MIA) - chiefscafan - Jimmy Moreland, CB, James Madison University
232. Atlanta - BossChief - Hjalte Froholdt, OG, Arkansas
233. Miami (from CLE) - The Franchise - Dexter Williams, RB, Notre Dame
234. NY Giants (from MIN) - Tambaberry - DaMarkus Lodge, WR, Ole Miss
235. Miami (from TEN) - The Franchise - Tim Ward, DE, Old Dominion
236. Cleveland (from PIT) - The Franchise - Alex Bars, OG, Notre Dame
237. Oakland (from SEA) - Marco Polo - Martez Ivey, OT, Florida
238. Jacksonville (from BAL) - Chief Northman - Lukas Denis, S, Boston College
239. Houston - CoMoChief - Xavier Crawford, CB, Central Michigan
240. Chicago - Rain Man - Montre Hartage, CB, Northwestern
241. New England (from PHI) - kccrow - Karan Higdon, RB, Michigan
242. Indianapolis - staylor26 - Darius Slayton, WR, Auburn
243. Dallas - Chargem - Ronheen Bingham, DE, Arkansas State
244. Buffalo (from LAC) - DJ's left nut - John Cominsky, DE, Charleston
245. San Francisco (from KC) - CoMoChief - Iman Marshall, CB, USC
246. New Orleans - htismaqe - Dillon Mitchell, WR, Oregon
247. NY Giants (from LAR) - Tambaberry - Gary Jennings, WR, WVU
248. New England - kccrow - Cole Holcomb, ILB, North Carolina
249. Minnesota (COMP) - RealSNR - Keesean Johnson, WR, Fresno State
250. Arizona (COMP) - kccrow - Anthony Johnson, WR, Buffalo
251. Arizona (COMP) - kccrow - Jordan Brailford, EDGE, Oklahoma St.
252. Minnesota (COMP) - RealSNR - Stephen Denmark, CB, Valdosta State
253. LA Rams (COMP) -Hoover - Nate Hall, OLB, Northwestern
254. New England (COMP) - kccrow - Nik Needham, CB, UTEP
255. Washington (COMP) - htismaqe - Malik Gant, S, Marshall
256. Arizona (COMP) - kccrow - Derwin Gray, OT, Maryland
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The Franchise 10:53 AM 03-22-2019
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Yes.

Because of the versatility and what he could free up Spags to do with Mathieu. If you're arguing for Rapp, that's how you're doing it (I just like Adderly more).

You could have two almost completely interchangeable safeties who could go into the box or back into coverage on any given snap. Hell, they could slip into short zones or even the slot and free up some interesting blitz possibilities. It really makes it tough to guess how to deploy route combinations or even protections when you don't know who's gonna be going up/back, releasing or running.

I think that's probably what Crow envisions with Thornhill; I simply think Adderly plays with a litte more edge and a brings a little better skill in space. And I think that's what the Rapp fans are envisioning as well, but I don't think Rapp has the agility/fluidity to be a real asset in single-high. If I'm comparing Thornhill to Addrerly I'm comparing Rapp to Abrams.

I think Adderly can be the second swiss army knife back there that opens up a lot of possibilities.
Think he's worth trading up for? Or would you be content with getting a guy like Gardner-Johnson?
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MotherfuckerJones 10:53 AM 03-22-2019
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Worst case scenario is that Omenihu is an excellent long-term SDE for us.

His punch/hands are top-notch. He may never have the bend to be a true LEO as we have come to know them, a guy that can just lean around the tackle to finish the play. But even if that doesn't happen, you put him on that strong side and let him win with technique and I think he's a stud.

Part of my fondness for Omenihu comes from my general disdain for Speaks and distrust of K-Pass.
And I’m fine with that, however, I’m still left needing more at safety and corner. I also feel that they do too since they almost had Earl Thomas too.

God I hated the Speaks pick but still giving it a chance
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htismaqe 10:58 AM 03-22-2019
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Yes.

Because of the versatility and what he could free up Spags to do with Mathieu. If you're arguing for Rapp, that's how you're doing it (I just like Adderly more).

You could have two almost completely interchangeable safeties who could go into the box or back into coverage on any given snap. Hell, they could slip into short zones or even the slot and free up some interesting blitz possibilities. It really makes it tough to guess how to deploy route combinations or even protections when you don't know who's gonna be going up/back, releasing or running.

I think that's probably what Crow envisions with Thornhill; I simply think Adderly plays with a litte more edge and a brings a little better skill in space. And I think that's what the Rapp fans are envisioning as well, but I don't think Rapp has the agility/fluidity to be a real asset in single-high. If I'm comparing Thornhill to Addrerly I'm comparing Rapp to Abrams.

I think Adderly can be the second swiss army knife back there that opens up a lot of possibilities.
The only thing I disagree with is comparing Rapp to Abram. I think a little more highly of Rapp and a little less of Abram. Honestly, I think Abram reminds of Thomas Davis, who ended up being a linebacker in the NFL.
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DJ's left nut 11:00 AM 03-22-2019
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Think he's worth trading up for? Or would you be content with getting a guy like Gardner-Johnson?
At the cost of one of our 2nds? Nah, I don't think so.

But admittedly, I vacillate a lot here. Sometimes I'm taken in by the number of needs I'd like to address in some capacity. Other times I'm able to convince myself that the hit rate on draft picks is a hell of a lot lower than we realize and that standing closer to the board is better than getting an extra dart; that it's more critical that we address a need for SURE rather than get another shot at addressing multiple needs.

I'm not sure if I'd be making phonecalls around pick 20 or if I'd just make sure I had my ringer turned up in case someone called me. It's a damn close question.
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chiefscafan 11:01 AM 03-22-2019
I’m liking how the draft has fallen to Steelers the rest of this draft is gonna be interesting.
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CoMoChief 11:02 AM 03-22-2019
San Francisco 49ers select Darrell Henderson, RB, Memphis


*Good pass catching back, gives SF a good 1-2 punch w/ Breida*
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DJ's left nut 11:04 AM 03-22-2019
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
The only thing I disagree with is comparing Rapp to Abram. I think a little more highly of Rapp and a little less of Abram. Honestly, I think Abram reminds of Thomas Davis, who ended up being a linebacker in the NFL.
Yeah, I think Rapp's a little more limited in space than you're giving him credit for, but I can see the attempt at the argument.

In a vacuum, do you see Rapp as a legitimate 1st round talent? I just don't. If I'm gonna see a limitation on a player and still put him in the 1st round, that limitation better not be the most critical one for that position. To me, Rapps is pretty much a pure SS and that coverage limitation makes him a 2nd round talent.

And so I just can't talk myself into taking him in the 1st because I think that's a pure need pick at that point. And I still maintain that over the course of 2+ seasons, every position on your team is going to be a need in some form or fashion. You put a hell of a ceiling on your draft returns if you just keep chasing them.

That's why I love how Dorsey drafted. He knew what his near term needs were but he also looked to what they were going to be in a season or 2. And so if he was on the clock and saw a need now with an okay prospect but a BETTER prospect at a position where there was a likely need in the future, he went with the latter option and hoped to raise the ceiling and overall depth of the team.
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htismaqe 11:07 AM 03-22-2019
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Yeah, I think Rapp's a little more limited in space than you're giving him credit for, but I can see the attempt at the argument.

In a vacuum, do you see Rapp as a legitimate 1st round talent? I just don't. If I'm gonna see a limitation on a player and still put him in the 1st round, that limitation better not be the most critical one for that position. To me, Rapps is pretty much a pure SS and that coverage limitation makes him a 2nd round talent.

And so I just can't talk myself into taking him in the 1st because I think that's a pure need pick at that point. And I still maintain that over the course of 2+ seasons, every position on your team is going to be a need in some form or fashion. You put a hell of a ceiling on your draft returns if you just keep chasing them.

That's why I love how Dorsey drafted. He knew what his near term needs were but he also looked to what they were going to be in a season or 2. And so if he was on the clock and saw a need now with an okay prospect but a BETTER prospect at a position where there was a likely need in the future, he went with the latter option and hoped to raise the ceiling and overall depth of the team.
We're actually not that far off. I think Rapp is a borderline guy. I *might* take him at 29, but mid-2nd seems a little better. I don't think he's strictly a SS but he definitely doesn't have the range that those other guys do, that's true.

My comment was more geared towards Abram, who in my mind isn't even a pure SS. Like I said, he might end up a LB when it is all said and done.
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staylor26 11:22 AM 03-22-2019
The New York Jets select David Edwards, OT, Wisconsin
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MotherfuckerJones 11:29 AM 03-22-2019
So what are we thinking the prime spot is for moving up? I think they’re moving up for an edge. My top edge choice in the teens is Burns and Ferrell. Not sure Sweat makes it into the teens after his testing
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Chief Northman 11:34 AM 03-22-2019
The Jacksonville Jaguars select, Erik McCoy, C/G, Texas A&M

The Jaguars continue to re-shape their OL with anticipated departures from Shatley and Cann. McCoy gives them a tough pivot with a fierce competitor's edge who could also move to Guard quite readily. His diversity is welcomed, and McCoy is a value pick at this point in the draft.
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Sfeihc 11:53 AM 03-22-2019
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers select L.J. Collier, DE, TCU.

Carl Nassib is the starting DE for the Bucs. That would be great if the Bucs defense were a financial planning firm. Their other starting DE blew half his hand off with a roman candle. Improvement at the position is necessary.
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Chief Northman 12:02 PM 03-22-2019
Originally Posted by Sfeihc:
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers select L.J. Collier, DE, TCU.

Carl Nassib is the starting DE for the Bucs. That would be great if the Bucs defense were a financial planning firm. Their other starting DE blew half his hand off with a roman candle. Improvement at the position is necessary.
LOL. Nassib was a beauty on Hard Knocks.

but with regards to your Roman Candle reference..... - he'd be a great fit in KC.
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staylor26 12:07 PM 03-22-2019
Collier is the guy I would have liked had we missed out on Omenihu. I prefer both over Ferguson.
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Hoover 12:27 PM 03-22-2019
With the 72nd pick in the NFL Draft, The Denver Broncos select Michael Jordan C/G, Ohio State

Fits nicely into the Broncos who lack talent on the inside of the offensive line.
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