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Nzoner's Game Room>Report: Orlando Brown requests trade from Ravens, wants to play LT
Sofa King 01:40 PM 02-10-2021
Moving on from Fisher? Probably not.

Cap room for him? Not really, but moves could be made.

Draft capital for him? Maybe, but we're awfully low in the draft.

Tunsil trade (For record-keeping purposes, the trade saw the Dolphins acquire first-round picks in 2020 and 2021 and a second-round pick in 2021 along with offensive tackle Julién Davenport and defensive back Johnson Bademosi in exchange for Tunsil, wide receiver Kenny Stills, a 2020 fourth-round pick and a 2021 sixth-round selection.)



https://www.nfl.com/news/orlando-bro...nts-to-play-lt


It only took the Ravens a little over a year to learn their selection of Orlando Brown was a wise one, but they've met a new challenge with the tackle that could be their last.

Brown has expressed his desire to be traded, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Wednesday. After spending the majority of 2020 on the left side in place of the injured Ronnie Stanley, Brown has found his comfort zone and does not want to return to the right side. He'll only play for a team that will line him up at his preferred left tackle position, per Rapoport.

Rapoport added the Ravens value Brown significantly and would need major compensation in order to do a deal.

Brown's background is on the left side, but he ended up in Baltimore as a right tackle after a poor pre-draft showing saw him slide from a first-round projection to an eventual third-round pick of the Ravens. He blossomed in 2019 and especially in 2020 after switching to the left side to replace Stanley, earning his second straight trip to the Pro Bowl -- and first as an initial selection. Thanks to Brown's quick adjustment to the left side of the line, Baltimore didn't lose much in offensive production following Stanley's injury, finishing as the league's No. 1 rushing offense for a second straight season.

Brown's success on the left side and desire to remain there might very well also be tied to the financial ramifications of the tackle position. As it currently stands, there is a $5 million per year difference between the league's highest-paid right tackle (Philadelphia's Lane Johnson) and left tackle (Green Bay's David Bakhtiari). Of the top 10 highest-paid tackles in the NFL (in terms of average salary per year), only two -- Johnson and Las Vegas' Trent Brown -- are right tackles.

Orlando Brown missed out on significant money typically afforded to first-round picks right around the moment when he racked the bar after just 14 bench-press reps during a nightmarish 2018 NFL Scouting Combine. He's made a little over $1.8 million in base salary total in his first three seasons, and though he will see a significant boost in 2021 (base salary of $3.38 million) due to the structure of his rookie deal, that's still an incredibly far cry from where tackles of his level land in compensation ranking.

After demonstrating his ability to effectively handle the transition from right to left tackle -- a return to his roots, essentially -- Brown is in a prime position to capitalize financially and beyond. He'll maximize his earning potential by remaining a left tackle, and he'll probably enjoy playing the game a bit more in a stance and vantage point that's more familiar to him, anyway.


If that doesn't fit in Baltimore, the Ravens will have to move him. And though this isn't exactly the best way to ensure maximum leverage in a deal, they'll probably still get a haul for him.
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ROYC75 04:15 PM 04-14-2021
Originally Posted by RunKC:
FWIW this is what Matt Miller has been hearing.



Also said Chargers want a LT and edge, Denver looking to trade up for a QB and Raiders want force in the middle of the field (ND LB)
I can see tackle, but more in the 2nd RD, not 1st. I could see us trading back out of the 1st if a willing partner came up.
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Pitt Gorilla 04:16 PM 04-14-2021
Originally Posted by ROYC75:
I can see tackle, but more in the 2nd RD, not 1st. I could see us trading back out of the 1st if a willing partner came up.
I don't think we have any idea 1) how the draft will fall, and 2) who the Chiefs value and where. Why couldn't they take an OT with our pick in rd 1?
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BossChief 04:18 PM 04-14-2021
I know nobody wants to hear it, but “the blueprint” Veach talked about what improving 3 positions this offseason.

OL
DL
LB

We’ve added players on the offensive snd defensive lines...but haven’t touched linebackers yet.

I may be one of the only ones not surprised if we take a guy like Collins in the first, if he falls to 31.
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ToxSocks 04:21 PM 04-14-2021
Originally Posted by RunKC:
FWIW this is what Matt Miller has been hearing.



Also said Chargers want a LT and edge, Denver looking to trade up for a QB and Raiders want force in the middle of the field (ND LB)
Sounds like made up bullshit.
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ToxSocks 04:22 PM 04-14-2021
Originally Posted by BossChief:
I know nobody wants to hear it, but “the blueprint” Veach talked about what improving 3 positions this offseason.

OL
DL
LB

We’ve added players on the offensive snd defensive lines...but haven’t touched linebackers yet.

I may be one of the only ones not surprised if we take a guy like Collins in the first, if he falls to 31.
Several of us have been saying LB for a few days now....you don't even have to scroll back far Mr. "I may be one of the only ones".
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The Franchise 04:23 PM 04-14-2021
Originally Posted by BossChief:
I know nobody wants to hear it, but “the blueprint” Veach talked about what improving 3 positions this offseason.

OL
DL
LB

We’ve added players on the offensive snd defensive lines...but haven’t touched linebackers yet.

I may be one of the only ones not surprised if we take a guy like Collins in the first, if he falls to 31.
Jamin Davis.
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ROYC75 04:27 PM 04-14-2021
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
I don't think we have any idea 1) how the draft will fall, and 2) who the Chiefs value and where. Why couldn't they take an OT with our pick in rd 1?
IMHO, the top 3 or 4 OT will most likely be gone, BV not wanting to invest a 1st $$$ on a late 1st OT, but more of a skilled player.

It's true, drafts have gone strange many times before, we'll just have to wait and see about this one.
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TEX 04:32 PM 04-14-2021
Originally Posted by RunKC:
FWIW this is what Matt Miller has been hearing.

Originally Posted by :
Kansas City — Last year, a source in Kansas City told me their priority would always be “protecting Patrick and supporting Patrick”. They did the latter in the 2020 1st round with running back Clyde Edwards-Helaire. They’ll do the former in Round 1 this year. Barring a shocking value being available at No. 31 overall, expect the Chiefs’ pick to be an offensive tackle in Round 1.
That's how I think it will go.
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htismaqe 04:36 PM 04-14-2021
Originally Posted by BossChief:
I know nobody wants to hear it, but “the blueprint” Veach talked about what improving 3 positions this offseason.

OL
DL
LB

We’ve added players on the offensive snd defensive lines...but haven’t touched linebackers yet.

I may be one of the only ones not surprised if we take a guy like Collins in the first, if he falls to 31.
I don't think a LB would be a shock at all, we've been talking about it for a while now.

That being said, there's guys I'd rather have over Collins but that's a different discussion.
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htismaqe 04:37 PM 04-14-2021
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
I don't think we have any idea 1) how the draft will fall, and 2) who the Chiefs value and where. Why couldn't they take an OT with our pick in rd 1?
They absolutely could.

I personally don't think the value is there. The guys that have true pass blocking upside, guys like Little and Brown, are probably more 2nd round picks the first round.

If you said we could get Teven Jenkins at 31 and a DE or LB at 63 vs. taking a DE or LB at 31 and taking Spencer Brown at 63, I'm going with the latter hands down.
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Chief Roundup 04:42 PM 04-14-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
They absolutely could.

I personally don't think the value is there. The guys that have true pass blocking upside, guys like Little and Brown, are probably more 2nd round picks in the first round.

If you said we could get Teven Jenkins at 31 and a DE or LB at 63 vs. taking a DE or LB at 31 and taking Spencer Brown at 63, I'm going with the latter hands down.
Everything I have seen says that Little is a good run blocker but a questionable pass blocker. Stanford is a run first team.
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Tribal Warfare 04:48 PM 04-14-2021
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
Everything I have seen says that Little is a good run blocker but a questionable pass blocker. Stanford is a run first team.
It's the other way around Little is an excellent Passblocker , but an average to above average runblocker
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ToxSocks 04:50 PM 04-14-2021
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
It's the other way around Little is an excellent Passblocker , but an average to above average runblocker
He hasn't played football in 2 years, so who knows wtf he is at this point.
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Tribal Warfare 04:53 PM 04-14-2021
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
He hasn't played football in 2 years, so who knows wtf he is at this point.
Ah the too risky rebuttal, like he's a 30 year old with his athletic skills diminishing
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The Franchise 04:53 PM 04-14-2021
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
He hasn't played football in 2 years, so who knows wtf he is at this point.
It’s not like he forgot how to play the sport. Some people over exaggerate on this missed year shit.
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