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Simply Red 09:38 AM 03-29-2018
Hi Guys,

I'm up to a 36 waist - thanks to Del Taco and a few others. As well as eating pretty poorly over the last year, or so.

I'm on a strict regimen now and doing a three week diet and then merging it into a new way of life. I have a history of eating well (normally) - but, again; have been quite clumsy over the past year or so.

My plan is to limit myself to 1100 calories a day the first week, then up to 1200 the second week, and then stay on or around 1500 calories as the norm, with one cheat day per week.

After the third week - I'll get back into some sort of exercise, which too will be part of the new 'way of life'

In this thread I'd like to discuss food ideas for assisting myself (& others) with weight loss.

Since Monday I've not gone above 1100 calories/daily - I have eaten oatmeal, oranges, bananas, hard-boiled eggs and in closing, in the evening - I'll eat one of the Chick Fil A Spicy, grilled chicken wraps w/o dressing (350 cals)

I'm open to ideas - but the goal is - finding items that are a little less common and more creative.

Please assist at your leisure - anyone else need assistance or interested in jumping aboard, I welcome it.

Thanks again
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Marcellus 06:28 AM 04-09-2018
Originally Posted by Shag:
Jumping rope will offer significantly more calorie burn over an equal amount of time, compared to running. HIIT and rowing are also higher calorie burn.
Sounded interesting so I did a little research.

I'm not bashing any form of exercise so to each their own but here is what I gathered.

Jumping rope is not a beginners exercise as crazy as that sounds and to get to the speed required to jump rope to burn equivalent running calories is going to take a while and its pretty advanced.

So if you are a novice and neither run or jump rope you will burn more calories running for the same amount of time.

Rowing does not burn more calories than running but it does have other ancillary muscle building benefits running does not. I have recently started doing some rowing during my core workouts.

Originally Posted by :
You will burn calories using a rowing machine, but not as many as when running. According to the American Council on Exercise, a 150-pound person burns approximately 158 calories in 30 minutes rowing at a moderate pace, but burns 181 calories in the same amount of time running at a pace of 5 miles per hour.
And as far as HIIT goes, you can do those type of workouts running.

The main and most important thing is to find an activity whether its running, biking, rowing, or jumping rope, that you enjoy because you will most likely stick to it. If you like more than 1 and can mix it up its probably even better.I used to play a lot of racquetball when I was in my 20's.

A lot is going to depend on your starting physical fitness level, running and jumping rope may not be an option early, maybe its cycling.

From a simplicity standpoint and bang for the buck, its hard to beat running though.

My $.02.
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BigRedChief 06:31 AM 04-09-2018
Originally Posted by Simply Red:
weight up today to 223 I guess that's normal - water? Not going to worry about it - eyes on the goal still.
I've had that happen a lot. I'll be way below my calories intake goals. Worked out for days straight and I weigh..... up 3 lbs. :-)

The next day or the day after its gone along with the actual weight I've lost. Everything I've read says its just water weight.
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Marcellus 06:39 AM 04-09-2018
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
I've had that happen a lot. I'll be way below my calories intake goals. Worked out for days straight and I weigh..... up 3 lbs. :-)

The next day or the day after its gone along with the actual weight I've lost. Everything I've read says its just water weight.
The only way you can lose or gain several pounds in a day or 2 is water weight.

I am sure its covered here somewhere but 1lb of body weight (fat, muscle) is about 3500 calories so the only way you are actually losing something other than water weight (or gaining for that matter) is the calorie in and calorie out so it would take a 7000cal swing over a few days to make a 2 lb difference either way.
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Titty Meat 06:40 AM 04-09-2018
Fuck jogging do HIIT, Kettlebell workouts, stairs or hills. With that said you can't outwork your diet.
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Mr. Plow 07:13 AM 04-09-2018
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Sounded interesting so I did a little research.

I'm not bashing any form of exercise so to each their own but here is what I gathered.

Jumping rope is not a beginners exercise as crazy as that sounds and to get to the speed required to jump rope to burn equivalent running calories is going to take a while and its pretty advanced.

So if you are a novice and neither run or jump rope you will burn more calories running for the same amount of time.

Rowing does not burn more calories than running but it does have other ancillary muscle building benefits running does not. I have recently started doing some rowing during my core workouts.



And as far as HIIT goes, you can do those type of workouts running.

The main and most important thing is to find an activity whether its running, biking, rowing, or jumping rope, that you enjoy because you will most likely stick to it. If you like more than 1 and can mix it up its probably even better.I used to play a lot of racquetball when I was in my 20's.

A lot is going to depend on your starting physical fitness level, running and jumping rope may not be an option early, maybe its cycling.

From a simplicity standpoint and bang for the buck, its hard to beat running though.

My $.02.

I started out jogging on a treadmill. Was slowly working my way up to longer distances. I discovered that walking at a near jogging pace with a high incline burns more calories for me without the stress on my knees.
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Mr. Plow 07:17 AM 04-09-2018
As for me - my weekend went ok. I wasn't planning to worry about going over my 2,020 calories as long as I didn't go overboard. I stayed a lot closer to my goal than I assumed I would. Weighed myself this morning and I was at 220.8 down from 225 last week.

I try to not weigh myself very often because not seeing it change or seeing it go the wrong direction doesn't help. I'm shooting for once a week.
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Frosty 07:28 AM 04-09-2018
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
yesterday was the first time I’ve went above 1500 calories since i started tracking my calories.
Nice. That's a big deficit.

I average 1500 calories six days a week and then have one larger day that brings the average up to about 1800 calories (if I hit it). There is some evidence that structuring it this way helps avoid or slow down some of the metabolic slowdowns that happen with chronic calorie deficits. We'll see.

I was at 600 calories yesterday, so a little over. Weighed in at 218.8 this morning.
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Simply Red 07:50 AM 04-09-2018
Originally Posted by KCUnited:
I still haven’t been cleared to lift weights or drive since a neck fracture last September. I’m hoping that changes tomorrow. I’ve been doing physical therapy for a couple months but it’s a pretty minor workout. I hung a couple slab doors on Friday that we’re probably 75 or 80lbs apiece, so the strength is starting to come back. I’ve got about 95% range of motion back in my neck so I’m hoping to get the OK to start driving again as well.

It’s easier for me to eat better throughout the day if I get a morning workout in.
Oh okay - I didn't know of your injury - glad you're okay!
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Shag 09:52 AM 04-09-2018
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Sounded interesting so I did a little research.

I'm not bashing any form of exercise so to each their own but here is what I gathered.

Jumping rope is not a beginners exercise as crazy as that sounds and to get to the speed required to jump rope to burn equivalent running calories is going to take a while and its pretty advanced.

So if you are a novice and neither run or jump rope you will burn more calories running for the same amount of time.

Rowing does not burn more calories than running but it does have other ancillary muscle building benefits running does not. I have recently started doing some rowing during my core workouts.



And as far as HIIT goes, you can do those type of workouts running.

The main and most important thing is to find an activity whether its running, biking, rowing, or jumping rope, that you enjoy because you will most likely stick to it. If you like more than 1 and can mix it up its probably even better.I used to play a lot of racquetball when I was in my 20's.

A lot is going to depend on your starting physical fitness level, running and jumping rope may not be an option early, maybe its cycling.

From a simplicity standpoint and bang for the buck, its hard to beat running though.

My $.02.
Interesting. I looked into this a while back, and don't recall my sources, but while I did find mixed results for running vs rowing, I came away with the impression that rowing would be slightly more burn than running. On a quick search, I can find a number of sites that indicate that, but also quite a few that contradict it. Both good beginner exercises, for sure. For my money, I'd go rowing, simply because it's easier on the body. I'm also old, though, lol.

Good post.
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Simply Red 09:56 AM 04-09-2018
Running is great until you blow out your knees
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Shag 09:59 AM 04-09-2018
Originally Posted by Simply Red:
Running is great until you blow out your knees
So are most things, lol. I play a ton of beach volleyball, and am dealing with jumper's knee (patellar tendonitis) right now, and it sucks large. I need to take 4-6 weeks off, but that's almost impossible for me - I'd go stir crazy.
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Simply Red 11:25 AM 04-09-2018
Originally Posted by Shag:
So are most things, lol. I play a ton of beach volleyball, and am dealing with jumper's knee (patellar tendonitis) right now, and it sucks large. I need to take 4-6 weeks off, but that's almost impossible for me - I'd go stir crazy.
yeah man - the fun of growing older - I suppose it beats the alternative :-)
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BigRedChief 11:33 AM 04-09-2018
Originally Posted by Frosty:
Nice. That's a big deficit.

I average 1500 calories six days a week and then have one larger day that brings the average up to about 1800 calories (if I hit it). There is some evidence that structuring it this way helps avoid or slow down some of the metabolic slowdowns that happen with chronic calorie deficits. We'll see.

I was at 600 calories yesterday, so a little over. Weighed in at 218.8 this morning.
my fitness pal says l should at or below 2509 calories a day to lose 2 lbs a week. That doesn’t count any exercise.
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Simply Red 11:40 AM 04-09-2018
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
my fitness pal says l should at or below 2509 calories a day to lose 2 lbs a week. That doesn’t count any exercise.
aren't you in Florida?
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Simply Red 11:45 AM 04-09-2018
Nutrition Facts
Publix - Turkey Sub on Whole Wheat (No Cheese)
Servings:
1.0

Calories 186 Sodium 464 mg
Total Fat 9 g Potassium 0 mg
Saturated 5 g Total Carbs 48 g
Polyunsaturated 0 g Dietary Fiber 2 g
Monounsaturated 0 g Sugars 3 g
Trans 0 g Protein 31 g
Cholesterol 37 mg
Vitamin A 45% Calcium 25%
Vitamin C 30% Iron 20%
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