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Nzoner's Game Room>*** Official 2017 Royals Repository ***
Chiefspants 10:55 AM 04-05-2017
Chiefsplanet’s (Proposed) 2017 Season Title: One Last Ride

Midish-Season Update (Royals 51-47, 2nd Wild Card, 1.5 GB of ALC):

We're halfway through 2017, and fittingly to the Chiefsplanet's 2017 Season Title, the Royals are all-in on what will likely be one final run with the current core. While many are worried the Royals will take a 2004 style tumble after this year, the farm system is hardly the barren wasteland it was during the Baird years. To see what's in the pipeline and what we have to look forward to, check out this exceptional list and analysis that Duncan put together of our system.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...htmlview#gid=0

While I had the honor of starting this thread this year, Duncan will always have a VIP pass to this OP, and can add more content at any time.

2017's Burning Questions Revisited:

1. What is the threshold between being “buyers” and “sellers” at the deadline?

We're buyers, baby.

In April, I argued that it would be a wise strategy for us to sell if we were 5 GB or worse, but that Dayton would likely add supplemental pieces for us to load up for another run if we were 1-2 GB. On July 24th, the Royals found themselves in sole possession of the 2nd wild card spot and 1.5 games back of the division. In April I said the Royals might pull the trigger on someone like Alex Cobb and resign Luke Hochevar, but since the Rays are also buyers and Luke's shoulder hasn't rebounded, this prediction hasn't come to fruition. Luckily, Dayton Moore again proved much more adept and creative than me by adding Trevor Cahill (good call, Duncan), Brandon Maurer and Ryan Buchter in a single trade. Giving us a solid starter to compete in 2017, and two relievers whom we will control through 2019 and 2021, respectively, keeping Moore's new vision through 2019-2020 intact. Moore has hinted that the Royals will continue to pursue the right deals if they're there, so the fun may not be over just yet. While we may not have the bullets to pull in a "star" like Cueto or Zo, Moore's adeptness may yet again net us what we need for another run in October.

2. Can Gordo and Moose bounce back to 2015 levels?

In April I asked if Gordo could at least set the table at a 265/325/425 clip and if Moose could deliver damage around a 265/335/500 clip for an entire year. This season Mr. Moustakas has been the prospect that was promised, delivering at a 277/307/568 clip as of this update. Gordo, on the other hand, has put up an unbelievably abysmal line thus far. But, if there is a silver lining, it's that Gordo has performed at a 246/311/432 line since June 1st, and if he can continue to perform near that mark, he will be more than a valuable asset at the bottom of the lineup while he continues to provide the best LF defense in the league.

3. Can Ned Yost manage a bullpen?

In April, I felt that despite the poor start, Royals bullpen would ultimately be "solid" this year, but the question was whether "solid" was good enough for Ned. I argued that the Royals needed Soria to bounce back and that Ned would need to start being strategic in his L/L and R/R matchups. While Ned has still made at times baffling and frustrating decisions with his starters (such as allowing Travis Wood to try to "get the win" and still insisting on sending Hammel out for the 6th, he's mostly done a good job).

MASH: Minor/Moylan - Alexander - Soria - Herrera (Credit to C3HIEF3S for the origins of the phrase) have cemented into reliable pieces, and now that Herrera is showing signs of stabilizing, our dumping of Wood, our call up Flynn, and the acquisition of Buchter and Maurer, the Royals have the potential to enter October with one of the best and deepest bullpens in the postseason.

4. Will the Royals find a boost from an unexpected X-Factor to lift them to contention?

Cool-Whit, Boni, Mike ****ing Minor, and Alexander have come up huge thus far. Cool Whit is, incredibly, is second on the team in WAR and has more than replaced Zo's presence on the team. They, like the X-Factors on the 2014-2015 teams, have been critical cogs as we've raced back to contention, while Cool-Whit and Boni also have provided a rosier outlook for this team's future. It's worth noting that Salvador Perez and Jason Vargas has been beasts on offense and the mound (along with Sal providing his customary defensive excellence), but I am still a bit wary of Salvy's annual Yost assisted offensive drought as the team moves into August, along with Vargy regressing to his averages.

5. Can Jorge Soler and Brandon Moss be productive contributors in Kauffman’s dimensions?

Ouch, no, but the Royals shift to power-hitting in the juiced ball era looks like one that will pay off. Thankfully, Moss is showing signs of entering his seasonal hot streak where he becomes corn-fed Jesus for a month, and we'll need him hot to keep up with Cleveland down the stretch. While Jorge has been painful to watch in the majors, his scorching performance in AAA should give one a bright hope for the future. While some may disagree, I offer Moose, Hos, Gordo, and Duffy's struggles as exhibit A for why it is far too early to give up on Soler's potential.

Bonus Question - Is Raul Mondesi truly ready to be an everyday player?

Ha! Not even close. However, like Soler, his progress in AAA is incredibly encouraging. With ceilings like Lindor and floors being Esky being thrown out there, it's hard not to be excited about his future.

The Picture Forward

There are many reasons to be excited, and not only for 2017. The Royals emergence of Cool Whit, Bonifacio, and Scott Alexander, and the fact that we have pieces like Salvador Perez, Danny Duffy, Kelvin Herrera, Jorge Soler, Ryan Buchter, Brandon Maurer Cheslor Cuthbert, and Raul Mondesi until at least 2019 should leave one feeling pretty optimistic. Re-up Moose or Hos (and heck, re-sign Dyson while we're at it), and suddenly this team looks very much like one that could compete for the indefinite future.

The Royals are all in again, buckle in and enjoy the ride.

April OP:

Spoiler!

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ping2000 08:21 PM 04-24-2017
This team needs to massively improve just to get to the suck level. Holy crap they are bad.
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C3HIEF3S 08:48 PM 04-24-2017
wRC+ is at a perfect 100 league average currently for all batters in the league who have > 29 PA's
[For example, if a player has a wRC+ of 115, he is 15% above league-average and vice-versa if it is below 100.]

Taking that into account and searching for only batters who have > 29 PA's, the Royals are currently tied for 26th in the league with the White Sox, Rangers, and Cardinals with a total of 3 batters with above-average run production. The only team with 2 players above league-average wRC+ is the Padres.

On the contrary, we are tied for first for amount of players whose run production is greater than 25% below league-average. So not only are we bad... we are really bad. In fact, we do bad good. We are good at bad.

tl;dr, "I don't care about statistics, you AIDS ****er" translation:
We suck nuts.
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cabletech94 09:34 PM 04-24-2017
Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S:
wRC+ is at a perfect 100 league average currently for all batters in the league who have > 29 PA's
[For example, if a player has a wRC+ of 115, he is 15% above league-average and vice-versa if it is below 100.]

Taking that into account and searching for only batters who have > 29 PA's, the Royals are currently tied for 26th in the league with the White Sox, Rangers, and Cardinals with a total of 3 batters with above-average run production. The only team with 2 players above league-average wRC+ is the Padres.

On the contrary, we are tied for first for amount of players whose run production is greater than 25% below league-average. So not only are we bad... we are really bad. In fact, we do bad good. We are good at bad.

tl;dr, "I don't care about statistics, you AIDS ****er" translation:
We suck nuts.


#nutsucker.
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ChiefsCountry 09:38 PM 04-24-2017
Originally Posted by 13and3:
Why cant we spend up to the salary cap and keep our good players. Seems to me we had a winning formula shut down bull pen, scrappy players that didnt quit because they knew they could count on the bullpen. We get rid of davis let holland walk and pretend we have a power batting team. Who ever showed us on the team they were top level run producers?
What's this salary cap you are talking about in baseball?
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Prison Bitch 11:04 PM 04-24-2017
Hoz 0-4, with 3 ground outs. Even to end the game. Shmuck
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Unsmooth-Moment 03:44 AM 04-25-2017
Has Travis Wood ever not given up a run this year?

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ARROW2 05:08 AM 04-25-2017
As I said before and as painful as it is to say, it's over, we suck and the fire sale is coming. Every game, it's the same fucking thing. We make EVERY pitcher look like a fucking Cy Young candidate.
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Unsmooth-Moment 05:43 AM 04-25-2017
Originally Posted by ARROW2:
As I said before and as painful as it is to say, it's over, we suck and the fire sale is coming. Every game, it's the same fucking thing. We make EVERY pitcher look like a fucking Cy Young candidate.
Long term I think this is our best option (fire sale), but we have got to get some of these guys hitting to make them attractive. Hosmer needs to go on a tear or he may be looking at accepting a QO next year.. I still want to win, but we cannot stand tight if we are sitting close to .500 and have half a dozen teams above us.
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KCUnited 06:08 AM 04-25-2017
Originally Posted by lewdog:
Watch your cornhole and wallet bud.
The new multi-year deal between the White Sox and Modelo Especial did not go unnoticed amongst the crowd of 5k on hand last night.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 06:26 AM 04-25-2017
I think our coaching staff needs to be replaced, not so much the players. Players don't just become untalented.
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WhawhaWhat 06:33 AM 04-25-2017
Originally Posted by Hog Farmer:
I think our coaching staff needs to be replaced, not so much the players. Players don't just become untalented.
30+ year old players do.
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Lex Luthor 07:08 AM 04-25-2017
Originally Posted by Hog Farmer:
I think our coaching staff needs to be replaced, not so much the players. Players don't just become untalented.
Albert Pujols and Josh Hamilton say "hello".
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ARROW2 07:29 AM 04-25-2017
It's over
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TambaBerry 07:34 AM 04-25-2017
I'd start benching these guys like hosmer, send a message. Tell him to go work on his hitting non stop. Maybe sacrifice a chicken or something.
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sedated 08:07 AM 04-25-2017
Originally Posted by TambaBerry:
I'd start benching these guys like hosmer, send a message. Tell him to go work on his hitting non stop. Maybe sacrifice a chicken or something.

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