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Nzoner's Game Room>*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
Dante84 07:19 PM 04-27-2017
IT ****ING HAPPENED



OP UPDATE:

Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!
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FlaChief58 10:09 PM 11-10-2023
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
worried about his liver

It's coors light, it barely qualifies as beer. HBF
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Boise_Chief 09:31 AM 11-11-2023
Originally Posted by FlaChief58:
It's coors light, it barely qualifies as beer. HBF
True story silver bullets are like a workout for your kidneys and bladder. He is just promoting full body health.
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Tribal Warfare 11:20 AM 11-11-2023
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Hammock Parties 01:26 PM 11-11-2023
U MAD


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RunKC 06:38 PM 11-11-2023
Holy shit. Would buy this and frame it.

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ChiefsFanatic 09:03 PM 11-11-2023
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Holy shit. Would buy this and frame it.

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Holy shit, that is clean AF
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smithandrew051 09:16 PM 11-11-2023
Wow. That guy does some incredible work.
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dlphg9 11-11-2023, 09:35 PM
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dlphg9 09:42 PM 11-11-2023
Originally Posted by stevegroganfan:
Is your goal to have Patrick Mahomes throw for over 5000 yards or for the Chiefs to win as many regular season games as possible? More yards doesn't always equal more wins since if it did, Mahomes would have done better won loss record wise in college. Chiefs would probably be 8-1 if Kelce played that first week.

I'm not convinced ADOT is that meaningful and I will explain with your Mac Jones comparison. Patrick Mahomes job after all is to do whatever possible to maximize the Chiefs chancres of winning Super Bowls. And how Patrick Mahomes plays QB in a given game/season should be partially dependent upon the strength of the Chiefs defense.

With a stonger defense, there is less of a need to throw up 50/50 balls to average receivers.

Winning regular season games helps a team increase their SB odds if players don't get hurt but increasing ADOT may not necessarily help Chiefs win another SB.

QBR isn't the end all stat for judging passers since a QB can theoretically have a worse year passing and his QBR goes up 10-15 points. Dramatically better receivers/better offensive line etc.

But QBR is worth looking at for the effectiveness of a passing game.

Mac Jones 40.
Patrick Mahomes this year. 73. (1 game without Kelce hurts the numbers)

My best guess given the Patriots offensive line woes the first 2-3 weeks and injuries at wide receiver throughout the season, Mahomes is New England this year would have a QBR in the low to mid 60's. The media would be saying "what is wrong" with Mahomes if he didn't already have 2 Super Bowl rings but he would still be doing excellent overall.

And one way he would achieve that is probably throwing the ball less to Davante Parker since Parker is very bad at getting separation. He doesn't get much at all and relies upon winning 50/50 balls.

Mac Jones ADOT is probably higher since he has thrown too many 50/50 balls
to Davante Parker even when the two are not on the same page. And the Patriots have another receiver who isn't good at short routes.

Mahomes is too smart and too good to take too many relatively low percentage chances when he doesn't have to.

Mac Jones on average does have markedly worse weapons and on average a worse offensive line than Mahomes right now but ADOT may also be misleading since Chiefs tend to do a better job spreading the field. Mahomes can throw across his body/across the field and has the arm strength to make the throw, Mac Jones doesn't.
You just wrote a wall of text trying to school DJLN on football and this is all you can come up with? A bunch of nonsense that doesn't make any sense? Lmao, ok. Good try I guess.
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dlphg9 09:49 PM 11-11-2023
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Holy shit. Would buy this and frame it.

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Sold out and $3000 for it!
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Pitt Gorilla 09:54 PM 11-11-2023
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Holy shit. Would buy this and frame it.

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That's awesome.
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Hammock Parties 07:55 PM 11-13-2023
it is happening

Mahomes with the Mannings on MNF: “I think if the offense was playing as well as the defense is playing then no one would have anything to say.”

Adds: “I think we’ll be alright on offense with Andy Reid is the Coach.”

— Harold R. Kuntz (@HaroldRKuntz3) November 14, 2023

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Coochie liquor 09:38 AM 11-14-2023
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2023/11/pat...os-manningcast

Patrick Mahomes showed off his broadcast chops by perfectly predicting Broncos plays during ManningCast

Cory Woodroof

Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes showed off his unreal football smarts on Monday night’s ManningCast while predicting a Denver Broncos defensive play.

While talking with Peyton and Eli Manning, Mahomes knew the exact play that the Broncos would run to contain quarterback Josh Allen and exactly which Broncos player (outside linebacker Nik Bonitto) would spy the quarterback on the play.

The Mannings were very impressed with Mahomes’ ability to diagnose the play, especially since it’s a formation that has literally happened to him this season when the Chiefs played the Broncos.

Mahomes is one of the smartest players in the league for a reason, evident in this stellar breakdown of a play as it was happening.



He also predicted how the Broncos would score on a touchdown drive a bit later in the game.



Mahomes has a bright future ahead of him when his playing days are over, as he could easily hop into the booth and provide great commentary one day on the game he now plays.

While we’re sure Mahomes wants to win a few more Super Bowls before retiring, his ManningCast appearance inspires confidence in a future where he’s calling games on Sundays instead of playing them.
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Hammock Parties 10:39 AM 11-14-2023

Not a million miles away from when they tried to Tiger-Proof the golf courses and Tiger figured it out and everyone else was miserable. https://t.co/qzR7dhe5VL

— Kevin Clark (@bykevinclark) November 14, 2023

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Rain Man 12:09 PM 11-14-2023
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
It's like when the NFL decided to tone down the kicking game by making field goals and extra points harder and kickoffs longer and that sort of thing, and the end result was that it made the best kickers all the more valuable.
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Shag 02:02 PM 11-14-2023

When the play is perfectly covered, how often do QBs either 1) run for positive EPA or 2) engineer a throw into an open window. The sum of these 2 is what we'll call "create rate" (X axis)

All the credit to @greerreNFL for this great idea pic.twitter.com/aNuUOcENFT

— Jrfortgang (@throwthedamball) November 14, 2023

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