Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi:
No international games, May 4
There was the "considering our leadership", which is vague/eye-rolling, but whatever... then paired with "this pandemic needs to be managed a thousand times better than it is", which is again vague, yet not really.... but, then we reach the real reason you were booted:
Originally Posted by :
especially by the mouth breathing carnival barker in charge and if you think he's doing a great job you're a goddam hillbilly chud steadfastly believing what only the lunatic fringe believes, against all evidence and logic
Yeah, no idea what the average hospital stay is or the percentage who are in the hospital for days vs. weeks.... but, if someone contracted it in late May, they may not have had symptoms until early-mid(ish) June, then however long it takes to go from symptomatic to hospitalization on average.... which means a ~3-5 week stay at this point.
I've heard many stories of people being symptomatic for a couple weeks or more, so not terribly surprising that a hospitalization could last twice as long... but again, don't know the percentages on that. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi:
Thanks for taking the time to look that up for me it brings a smile to my face.
It was for my own benefit, really... I hadn't read that thread, and with a few of us mods around and each of us potentially trying to give the benefit of the doubt to the same person a time or three, we may not notice how many times we're overlooking the political BS before mentioning it in the mod lounge and taking notice...
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
There was the "considering our leadership", which is vague/eye-rolling, but whatever... then paired with "this pandemic needs to be managed a thousand times better than it is", which is again vague, yet not really.... but, then we reach the real reason you were booted:
Have you had one accurate take in this thread? My memory is just you spewing endless nonsense and consistently getting shot down. You're like Pete-lite.
But you still feel the need to hang around and tattle on anyone you think is posting anything slightly political (left only of course). Sad. [Reply]
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
Have you had one accurate take in this thread? My memory is just you spewing endless nonsense and consistently getting shot down. You're like Pete-lite.
But you still feel the need to hang around and tattle on anyone you think is posting anything slightly political (left only of course). Sad.
Pretty much been dead on from the get go.
Schools start to open in July..check
Baseball starting in July..check
Basketball starting in July...check
Emphasized locking down older populations living in assisted living centers.. check
Suzzer will cry like a bitch..check [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
Pretty much been dead on from the get go.
Schools start to open in July..check
Baseball starting in July..check
Basketball starting in July...check
Emphasized locking down older populations living in assisted living centers.. check
Suzzer will cry like a bitch..check