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Originally Posted by keg in kc:
We believed who would die? Jon?
I never thought for a second that he would die, or that they would lose the battle.
Most of us at the watch party thought it would be just like GRRM to kill him off again before he gets to Winterfell. So yes, our group of 15 or so thought yes, it could happen. Didn't think it would but when they started playing the death music ala Hodor when he was struggling to breathe at the bottom of the pile our GRRM radar activated. [Reply]
It has been brought up several times lately. Just FYI.......Book spoiler but not mentioned in the TV series so far but maybe, but not likely, could come into play later.
Spoiler!
In the books Euron Greyjoy has an ancient horn that when blown will supposedly bring down the wall that was built in the north to keep out the wildings/white walkers
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
It has been brought up several times lately. Just FYI.......Book spoiler but not mentioned in the TV series so far but maybe, but not likely, could come into play later.
Spoiler!
In the books Euron Greyjoy has an ancient horn that when blown will supposedly bring down the wall that was built in the north to keep out the wildings/white walkers
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
I'm guessing you're thinking if the Wall comes down then Winterfell will fall at the same time but I want to be sure. I've read some tinfoily ass theories and it's hard to tell exactly where someone's mind will take them unless they come out with it.
Yes. I don't have a whole researched point by point theory. I just don't think we are looking at an "everyone comes together to rid the world of an evil" kind of ending. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
Well then accurate it up.
The horn Euron has is supposedly dragonbinder which will allow him to control dragons.
We've yet to be told definitively that we've seen the horn that has the power to bring down the Wall but if it is real it's likely the broken horn Jon found on the Fist that he gave to Sam. A little Chekov's gun action. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
Well then accurate it up.
Originally Posted by vailpass:
Calling dragons and burning to death if you aren't Targ, destroying the Wall.
What's the difference?
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
The horn Euron has is supposedly dragonbinder which will allow him to control dragons.
We've yet to be told definitively that we've seen the horn that has the power to bring down the Wall but if it is real it's likely the broken horn Jon found on the Fist that he gave to Sam. A little Chekov's gun action.
Pretty much all of this.
Remember, the dragonbinder was blown at the kingsmoot and the wall is still standing. To be honest, I don't think there is a Horn of Joramun as Jon tried blowing the horn Sam found with no result.
The show is likely to fuck us out of all of this but in the books (especially based on the released chapters), I'm expecting Euron to get control of a dragon for a brief period of time. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
God and baby Jesus I loved that shot. Rewound it like 10 times.
Can't say for certain they pulled it off here, but there is an almost identical shot in Ran with no special effects added, just composition and lenswork.
Wish I knew where to find it [maybe it was a feature of a Criterion DVD] but I saw a featurette on Kurosawa's use of that deep field focus in Ran. That shot cemented for me that Ran was one of their big references in composing the Battle of the Bastards.
