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The Franchise 10:44 AM 04-19-2021
Originally Posted by chiefforlife:
Right but that list is OL. Dickerson, Vera-Tucker, NO Mayfield.

I dont want Mayfield but I have seen him mocked to us, why if hes not even top 10.
Because people who do mocks but don’t know the team see the need for OT and they just blindly mock a player. Mayfield has been falling as of late.
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chiefforlife 11:06 AM 04-19-2021
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Because people who do mocks but don’t know the team see the need for OT and they just blindly mock a player. Mayfield has been falling as of late.
It is frustrating to me, if someone takes the time to do a mock and then gets lazy about it, its worthless.

I dont watch a lot of college ball so I have to learn about the draft prospects after the season is over. Relying on the "experts" is tough when they dont really know shit.

Im thinking Jenkins/Cosmi if they pick one at 31.

If they wait till rounds 2/3 Brown/Forsythe or Little. Really think they will wait till 2/3 and pick edge or WR at 31. Longshot maybe CB if a great one is there.
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chiefforlife 11:40 AM 04-19-2021
Originally Posted by chiefforlife:
It is frustrating to me, if someone takes the time to do a mock and then gets lazy about it, its worthless.

I dont watch a lot of college ball so I have to learn about the draft prospects after the season is over. Relying on the "experts" is tough when they dont really know shit.

Im thinking Jenkins/Cosmi if they pick one at 31.

If they wait till rounds 2/3 Brown/Forsythe or Little. Really think they will wait till 2/3 and pick edge or WR at 31. Longshot maybe CB if a great one is there.
Also, I wouldnt rule out Brady Christensen. We know Andy loves him some BYU boys.
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Tribal Warfare 01:00 PM 04-19-2021
Originally Posted by chiefforlife:
It is frustrating to me, if someone takes the time to do a mock and then gets lazy about it, its worthless.

I dont watch a lot of college ball so I have to learn about the draft prospects after the season is over. Relying on the "experts" is tough when they dont really know shit.

Im thinking Jenkins/Cosmi if they pick one at 31.

If they wait till rounds 2/3 Brown/Forsythe or Little. Really think they will wait till 2/3 and pick edge or WR at 31. Longshot maybe CB if a great one is there.
Cosmi is disqualified from consideration because hedoesn't hit the 33.5 inch arm length threshold
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O.city 01:27 PM 04-19-2021
After the top 3, I don't know how much separation there is from 4-10.
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DaneMcCloud 01:47 PM 04-19-2021
Originally Posted by O.city:
After the top 3, I don't know how much separation there is from 4-10.
This is why I think there's a better than good chance they take a WR or CB at #31, then trade up in the 2nd for their OT of choice.

There's a very, very good chance that the Chiefs can draft a WR that will make an immediate impact at #31 but the OT's at that point are all similar in that none of them are "clean" prospects that will be ready to compete at the necessary level in Week 1.

I'd really hate to see them pass on Marshall or Batemen in favor of a tackle who needs serious development in order to be a competent starter.
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The Franchise 01:54 PM 04-19-2021
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
This is why I think there's a better than good chance they take a WR or CB at #31, then trade up in the 2nd for their OT of choice.

There's a very, very good chance that the Chiefs can draft a WR that will make an immediate impact at #31 but the OT's at that point are all similar in that none of them are "clean" prospects that will be ready to compete at the necessary level in Week 1.

I'd really hate to see them pass on Marshall or Batemen in favor of a tackle who needs serious development in order to be a competent starter.
Yep. Marshall/Bateman in the first and Brown/Little/Forsythe in the 2nd.
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staylor26 01:55 PM 04-19-2021
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Yep. Marshall/Bateman in the first and Brown/Little/Forsythe in the 2nd.
As we get closer and closer, this is truly what I want.

I just don’t think the Chiefs go WR in the 1st when it’s all said and done. I hope I’m wrong though.

I will say this, I think the best chance of it happening is Bateman falling into our lap.
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The Franchise 01:58 PM 04-19-2021
Originally Posted by staylor26:
As we get closer and closer, this is truly what I want.

I just don’t think the Chiefs go WR in the 1st when it’s all said and done. I hope I’m wrong though.

I will say this, I think the best chance of it happening is Bateman falling into our lap.
Yeah, I think the main reason they don’t go WR in the first is because this class is deep.
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RunKC 02:23 PM 04-19-2021
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
This is why I think there's a better than good chance they take a WR or CB at #31, then trade up in the 2nd for their OT of choice.

There's a very, very good chance that the Chiefs can draft a WR that will make an immediate impact at #31 but the OT's at that point are all similar in that none of them are "clean" prospects that will be ready to compete at the necessary level in Week 1.

I'd really hate to see them pass on Marshall or Batemen in favor of a tackle who needs serious development in order to be a competent starter.
At this point it’s down to Veach’s top handful of players.

I really think you guys need to keep Asante Samuel Jr in mind. He is an ideal Spags chess piece and could start right away. He can play inside and outside. So much value to be had from that kid.

That’s assuming that DE is bare at 31, which I think is going to happen.

I could see receiver too, but ideally we trade down about 7-8 spots and get Dyami Brown, who I think would kill it in this offense.
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htismaqe 03:35 PM 04-19-2021
Originally Posted by RunKC:
At this point it’s down to Veach’s top handful of players.

I really think you guys need to keep Asante Samuel Jr in mind. He is an ideal Spags chess piece and could start right away. He can play inside and outside. So much value to be had from that kid.

That’s assuming that DE is bare at 31, which I think is going to happen.

I could see receiver too, but ideally we trade down about 7-8 spots and get Dyami Brown, who I think would kill it in this offense.
Yep.

I think we're going to see them go DB in the 1st with DE, WR, and OT being 2nd-4th in no particular order.
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duncan_idaho 03:57 PM 04-19-2021
Originally Posted by RunKC:
At this point it’s down to Veach’s top handful of players.

I really think you guys need to keep Asante Samuel Jr in mind. He is an ideal Spags chess piece and could start right away. He can play inside and outside. So much value to be had from that kid.

That’s assuming that DE is bare at 31, which I think is going to happen.

I could see receiver too, but ideally we trade down about 7-8 spots and get Dyami Brown, who I think would kill it in this offense.
I just don't see a scenario where EVERY DE, WR, and OT with a grade in the same range as the best available CB is gone. I don't see them spending their biggest draft capital on something that doesn't directly support Mahomes. Support your strengths.

I could see a trade back, maybe. But I think a trade up is more likely than standing pat and taking a DB.
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Coogs 04:04 PM 04-19-2021
Just listened to Paul Alexander on Moving the Chains on my way home from work. Par Kirwan asked him what his top three things he looked for in all the criteria that is available for OT's.

#1 was arm length, and if arm length wasn't there, their recovery skills on tape needed to be there.
#2 was bench press. If they can't bench over 20 reps, it shows more about commitment than anything else.
#3 is the 40 time. If you can run at the size these guys are, you have to be athletic.

Paraphrasing a bit, as I was listening to the radio.
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O.city 03:08 PM 04-19-2021
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
This is why I think there's a better than good chance they take a WR or CB at #31, then trade up in the 2nd for their OT of choice.

There's a very, very good chance that the Chiefs can draft a WR that will make an immediate impact at #31 but the OT's at that point are all similar in that none of them are "clean" prospects that will be ready to compete at the necessary level in Week 1.

I'd really hate to see them pass on Marshall or Batemen in favor of a tackle who needs serious development in order to be a competent starter.
It screams trade down to me if they can get someone to trade up.

They may be stuck though. If thats the case, just take the best player on your board and sort it out later.

Get a T in round 2 I guess.

I'd rather trade up for a LT, but I don't think it's feasible.
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htismaqe 03:37 PM 04-19-2021
Originally Posted by O.city:
It screams trade down to me if they can get someone to trade up.

They may be stuck though. If thats the case, just take the best player on your board and sort it out later.

Get a T in round 2 I guess.

I'd rather trade up for a LT, but I don't think it's feasible.
Who do you want them to trade up for though?

I don't understand using picks like that when the only way to get a really top notch prospect is to give up a haul and the guys you're getting with a reasonable trade up aren't really that much better than the guys at 31.

This just isn't the right draft to trade up for a LT. Its kind of like 2013 and looking for a QB.
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