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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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O.city 03:06 PM 06-27-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
Something I've been pondering on today..

We've all seen that the CDC has claimed that for every case diagnosed, 10 are missed.

Doesn't that make case count numbers virtually irrelevant?
It makes it important to see what the percent positives you’re getting are. The lower they are the better and more widespread your testing is

But with the asymptomatic spread and such it’s just damn near impossible
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TLO 03:16 PM 06-27-2020
SARS-CoV-2 has been circulating in northern Italy since December 2019: evidence from environmental monitoring

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....25.20140061v1
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O.city 03:38 PM 06-27-2020
I think that’s pretty obvious at this point
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Eleazar 04:02 PM 06-27-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
It makes it important to see what the percent positives you’re getting are. The lower they are the better and more widespread your testing is

But with the asymptomatic spread and such it’s just damn near impossible
Looking at it from the other end of the timeline instead of trying to watch it as it’s happening is helpful.

In New York, they went from nearly zero known infections at the beginning of March to what some people think might be 2 or 3 million total infections by the time their peak had passed in mid April.

For that to happen in 45 days they would have needed to average 50,000 new infections a day over the whole outbreak. Since it wouldn’t have been linear, probably at the height it was more like 100,000. An incredible transmission rate.

But, New York is a tinderbox. Overcrowding, mass transit, buildings with shared ventilation, tons of multigenerational households, etc etc
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O.city 04:04 PM 06-27-2020
Originally Posted by Eleazar:
Looking at it from the other end of the timeline instead of trying to watch it as it’s happening is helpful.

In New York, they went from nearly zero known infections at the beginning of March to what some people think might be 2 or 3 million total infections by the time their peak had passed in mid April.

For that to happen in 45 days they would have needed to average 50,000 new infections a day over the whole outbreak. Since it wouldn’t have been linear, probably at the height it was more like 100,000. An incredible transmission rate.
The outbreaks had to have started earlier than we think
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O.city 04:44 PM 06-27-2020
It’s just weird to see countries that did well and are unexplainable like japan and Australia
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petegz28 06:06 PM 06-27-2020
Worldometers is on pace for new deaths today to be at or slightly below Saturday of last week
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TLO 06:41 PM 06-27-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Worldometers is on pace for new deaths today to be at or slightly below Saturday of last week
512 looks like the final count unless there's some late additions. 582 last Saturday.
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RustShack 06:51 PM 06-27-2020
Everyone knew it would jump up again after reopening. In the first place it was just about flattening the curve. So what happens now? Let it play out or are we shutting down again?

It’s just wild to me that a few weeks ago(maybe a month?) they were talking about hospitals going out of business because they weren’t getting enough “business” anymore. Side note which annoys me because I want my son checked out about something and they aren’t taking customers due to COVID... MAYBE taking customers would help you financially??
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Eleazar 06:55 PM 06-27-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
512 looks like the final count unless there's some late additions. 582 last Saturday.
It's down to about 5 deaths per day in this state. It's really a pandemic of about 10 states right now. If it weren't for these bars and large parties we'd probably be saying wave 1 is over.
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Bearcat 07:27 PM 06-27-2020
(might have to click on it a time or two for it to start)

[OC] Covid 19 cases/million growth - Data of top 20 GDP countries. from r/dataisbeautiful


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Chief Pagan 07:34 PM 06-27-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
It’s just weird to see countries that did well and are unexplainable like japan and Australia
Japan has an extremely high mask wearing rate.

:-)

And even though it is a densely populated place, they don't do hand shakes, hugs, etc. They even tend to stand farther apart when talking.

They never locked down, but the government quietly focused on hotspots.

Australia I don't know.
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Bugeater 07:39 PM 06-27-2020
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
(might have to click on it a time or two for it to start)




I have no idea what exactly is going on here, but the US being on top and China at the bottom makes it smell like bullshit.
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Bearcat 07:53 PM 06-27-2020
Originally Posted by Bugeater:
I have no idea what exactly is going on here, but the US being on top and China at the bottom makes it smell like bullshit.
It's an animated version of this graph over time, and it looks like they filtered out some smaller countries... either way, the US is #1 and China relatively has their shit together now.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/inf...covid19-curve/
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Bugeater 07:56 PM 06-27-2020
Ehhh....there's something more to this. Election year...divided nation...nothing seems to be off limits. I'll leave it at that. Call me a conspiritard...I don't fucking care one goddamn bit. I'm not fucking stupid.
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