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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Donger 01:05 PM 06-26-2020
Originally Posted by Bugeater:
What level of compliance would we need, and for how long, to beat this bitch?


In your estimation, of course.
90% for as long as it takes to get the R0 below 1. This was never about dates and times, even though that's what almost everyone yapped on about.

It's about numbers.
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petegz28 01:05 PM 06-26-2020
Originally Posted by Bugeater:
I'm just talking wearing masks. That has 0 effect on the economy.
Gotta disagree, Bob. Restaurants and bars are a good deal of the economy and it's hard to eat and drink while wearing a mask.

Secondly masks are not the holy grail. Social distancing does more than any mask. If you aren't going to socially distance while wearing a mask then wtf? I mean they will help a bit but ....
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eDave 01:06 PM 06-26-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Well I guess if you're rounding up and what not you get to 50...:-)
He said 50.
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Donger 01:06 PM 06-26-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
I'm starting to wonder if a nationwide lockdown all at the same time (roughly) wasn't a mistake.
Really?
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TLO 01:09 PM 06-26-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...384v1.full.pdf

Here's the CDC seroprevalence.

MO was a state they checked. We were extremely higher than reported. Basically we caught 1 in 23 cases. THats not ideal
Saw that on Reddit earlier. Gotta think this thing is so widespread and has made its way through a lot more people than we can really fathom.
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Bugeater 01:10 PM 06-26-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
90% for as long as it takes to get the R0 below 1. This was never about dates and times, even though that's what almost everyone yapped on about.

It's about numbers.
Ugh...that's the conundrum. I feel like getting 90% of the population to wear them "indefinitely" is just not going to happen.
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TLO 01:10 PM 06-26-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Really?
Sure, why not. Everyone else can spew bullshit all day long why not join the party and really turn this party into a dumpster fire.
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BleedingRed 01:11 PM 06-26-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...384v1.full.pdf

Here's the CDC seroprevalence.

MO was a state they checked. We were extremely higher than reported. Basically we caught 1 in 23 cases. THats not ideal
Where are the serology studies, are we closer to herd immunity and how close?
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petegz28 01:11 PM 06-26-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
Saw that on Reddit earlier. Gotta think this thing is so widespread and has made its way through a lot more people than we can really fathom.
Eery time I see things like that it just makes me think just about everyone has it and is asymptomatic.
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Bugeater 01:12 PM 06-26-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Gotta disagree, Bob. Restaurants and bars are a good deal of the economy and it's hard to eat and drink while wearing a mask.

Secondly masks are not the holy grail. Social distancing does more than any mask. If you aren't going to socially distance while wearing a mask then wtf? I mean they will help a bit but ....
True...bars and restaurants are a bugaboo. Restaurants can get by with take out, but bars have already taken a nasty hit. But they could end up getting shut back down anyway. I have to wonder how busy they are...I know I'm not in any hurry to go sit in a bar for hours.
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O.city 01:12 PM 06-26-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Where are the serology studies, are we closer to herd immunity and how close?
It's not a set number. We wont' really know til we get there and we'll likely overshoot it.

Theres some stuff out there now thats showing Tcells do a good job so even these could be undercounting infections.
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Donger 01:12 PM 06-26-2020
Originally Posted by Bugeater:
Ugh...that's the conundrum. I feel like getting 90% of the population to wear them "indefinitely" is just not going to happen.
It's not indefinitely. Quite the opposite. It's defined. This won't beat this until the R0 is below 1. Either by mitigation, herd immunity or a vaccine.

We are nowhere near the latter, and we really don't want to have 70 to 80% of the country to get this.

So, that's what we are left with. Social distancing and masks.
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O.city 01:14 PM 06-26-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
Saw that on Reddit earlier. Gotta think this thing is so widespread and has made its way through a lot more people than we can really fathom.
This was alos done the last week of march. WTF. We were already at that point then?

According to that, the last week of March, there were 161k positive infections in MO. Thats wild.
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Donger 01:14 PM 06-26-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
Sure, why not. Everyone else can spew bullshit all day long why not join the party and really turn this party into a dumpster fire.
Okay. Well, I'm glad we mitigated.
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petegz28 01:15 PM 06-26-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
It's not a set number. We wont' really know til we get there and we'll likely overshoot it.

Theres some stuff out there now thats showing Tcells do a good job so even these could be undercounting infections.
So is that study suggesting MO really has 400,000+ cases? I mean MO has 19,374 cases. if 1 in 23 cases is caught are they suggesting 22 other cases are going unreported?
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