Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by DaFace:
We've booted people for less. It starts with a joke, but then people basically aren't allowed to respond to you without risking getting too political themselves. So just don't.
Alright sorry, I was just playing around at Pete being dense. [Reply]
Did you read the articles that you linked? Well I read "Could Statins Reduce the Severity of COVID-19" and it definitely did not say that statins could prevent you from getting COVID. The study that the article refers to hadn't even started at the time of the article. The article literally says
"Statins’ performance in clinical trials for infections
Although the data on COVID-19 and statins are scant, evidence from other infections, such as influenza, indicate that the drugs could have some benefit."
The only thing this article does is points out why statins may work.
The abstract of the Chinese study that Discuss Thrower posted actually states "however, statins may increase the risk of SARS-CoV-2 viral entry by inducing ACE2 expression" which is the complete opposite of what you said "actually there was a study several weeks ago done in this country stating very similar, that statins could help prevent getting Corona". Pete, you didn't even read the abstract of the study that Discuss Thrower posted. Do you really not understand how that would be confusing for SupDock to understand how statins, according to you, prevent COVID when a lot of old people are on statins, but are still getting COVID.
You are being a dick like usual. If youre gonna act like a jackass and post articles to support the shit you are saying, then it's probably a good idea to read the article. God damn man, you need to take a little bit of a break from this thread. It's got you flustered.
Calm yourself there, asshole, I will never be as much of a dick as you are. So you have nothing to fear. :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Calm yourself there, asshole, I will never be as much of a dick as you are. So you have nothing to fear. :-)
Oh yeah I'm an aas hole, but I don't have a problem with being one and I damn sure dont turn into a little bitch when I get called out for it and then act like I was joking or being sarcastic. [Reply]
"Because the spread is so rampant right now, there's never a reason for you to have to leave your home," Abbott told CNN affiliate KBTX. "Unless you do need to go out, the safest place for you is at your home."
New cases and hospitalizations are rising at their fastest rate yet, with Texas reporting 5,551 cases on Wednesday, breaking the previous record of 5,489 set the day before, health authorities said. [Reply]
In the nation's most populous state, California obliterated its previous single-day high with 7,149 cases reported on Tuesday, according to state Department of Public Health. The previous record, set the day before, was just more than 5,000. Hospitalization and ICU rates due to the virus are also at an all-time high in the state.
Gov. Gavin Newsom pleaded with Californians to think of others by wearing masks, keeping a safe distance and increasing handwashing. Loosely quoting Scripture, Newsom implored residents to "love thy neighbors, like yourself, please."
Acknowledging that younger people tend to feel safer returning to normal, Newsom said, "be careful about Mom and Dad, and careful about your mother-in-law, your father-in-law, your grandparents."
In Florida, the state reported 5,511 new cases on Tuesday, the highest number in a single day, according to the Florida Department of Health. [Reply]
New York is now imposing mandatory quarantine for 14 days with up to a $10K fine if a person does not follow those guidelines.
How are they going to track people and find them and then fine them? Hell the cops can't do their job as is and now they are going to add something like this, what a bunch of stupid shit. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Donger:
"Because the spread is so rampant right now, there's never a reason for you to have to leave your home," Abbott told CNN affiliate KBTX. "Unless you do need to go out, the safest place for you is at your home."
New cases and hospitalizations are rising at their fastest rate yet, with Texas reporting 5,551 cases on Wednesday, breaking the previous record of 5,489 set the day before, health authorities said.
Originally Posted by Donger:
In the nation's most populous state, California obliterated its previous single-day high with 7,149 cases reported on Tuesday, according to state Department of Public Health. The previous record, set the day before, was just more than 5,000. Hospitalization and ICU rates due to the virus are also at an all-time high in the state.
Gov. Gavin Newsom pleaded with Californians to think of others by wearing masks, keeping a safe distance and increasing handwashing. Loosely quoting Scripture, Newsom implored residents to "love thy neighbors, like yourself, please."
Acknowledging that younger people tend to feel safer returning to normal, Newsom said, "be careful about Mom and Dad, and careful about your mother-in-law, your father-in-law, your grandparents."
In Florida, the state reported 5,511 new cases on Tuesday, the highest number in a single day, according to the Florida Department of Health.
The IHME updated again today if anyone gives a shit. They're pushing for everyone to wear masks to decrease the death toll. (Even without the masks they still revised their death toll down)
They sure shot up the numbers for Missouri though. Wow. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
New York is now imposing mandatory quarantine for 14 days with up to a $10K fine if a person does not follow those guidelines.
How are they going to track people and find them and then fine them? Hell the cops can't do their job as is and now they are going to add something like this, what a bunch of stupid shit.
It's mostly just a deterrent. Speeding tickets aren't meant to find everyone who speeds. They're to keep the general population in line. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Donger:
In the nation's most populous state, California obliterated its previous single-day high with 7,149 cases reported on Tuesday, according to state Department of Public Health. The previous record, set the day before, was just more than 5,000. Hospitalization and ICU rates due to the virus are also at an all-time high in the state.
Gov. Gavin Newsom pleaded with Californians to think of others by wearing masks, keeping a safe distance and increasing handwashing. Loosely quoting Scripture, Newsom implored residents to "love thy neighbors, like yourself, please."
Acknowledging that younger people tend to feel safer returning to normal, Newsom said, "be careful about Mom and Dad, and careful about your mother-in-law, your father-in-law, your grandparents."
In Florida, the state reported 5,511 new cases on Tuesday, the highest number in a single day, according to the Florida Department of Health.
I`m still waiting for Newsome to implore that the looting and vandalism and killing stop during protests. (smacking forehead) Thats right, the rioting and protesting didnt affect the spread....my bad. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaFace:
It's mostly just a deterrent. Speeding tickets aren't meant to find everyone who speeds. They're to keep the general population in line.
A ticket can easily be tracked and the fin recovered, not so much with this. Threatening to whip your kids butt and never doing doesn't work and actually makes things worse.
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
New York is now imposing mandatory quarantine for 14 days with up to a $10K fine if a person does not follow those guidelines.
How are they going to track people and find them and then fine them? Hell the cops can't do their job as is and now they are going to add something like this, what a bunch of stupid shit.
Yeah very strange. How do you even keep track of something like that? [Reply]
Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy:
Yeah very strange. How do you even keep track of something like that?
Seems like someone got dinged with a fine in a different city because they posted about their vacation on social media and then posted out at a bar or something like that. I could be off on the details though. [Reply]
