This "Lamar Jackson is in the same league as Mahomes" nonsense on every football related show I see needs to stop.
Lamar Jackson, on the biggest stage, has now shit down his leg in both opportunities. Lamar is a player who has to have everything around him working perfectly to have success. Put him down 2 scores and ask him to carry the team, he cannot answer the bell.
There's a big difference between a running quarterback, and a quarterback who can run. Lamar Jackson and The Ravens ran 88 plays and put up 12 points.
Jackson attempted 59 passes, only threw one touchdown, but also threw two picks and lost a fumble. 12 points on 59 pass attempts should tell you all you need to know about Lamar as a QB when the lights are the brightest.
Nobody would bat an eye if before the game, soneone told us Pat would put the ball up 59 times. Matter of fact, id be pretty excited to see how many points and yards he would put up in that span of plays.
When things got bad for both QBs, you saw the odds on favorite to win the MVP this year get visible frustrated, press, and ultimately fold. He was nowhere to be seen trying to work out what was happening, rallying his team, he simply pouted on the sideline as his team fell further behind.
The reigning MVP had literally no quit. Its one thing to say after the fact, that we had faith all along, its quite another for that to be true.
Down 24, think about that for a moment. 24. Mahomes is captured, in that moment on the sideline saying we have everything we want. Everyones already counted us the **** out, so go do something special.
Then, to walk the walk after talking the talk, leading the team to 7 straight touchdowns and 8 scoring drives, throwing 5 touchdown passes, and displaying a fiery emotion that if you dont feel anything when you see this kid going nuts after a huge play, call the coroner, because youre already dead.
The two qbs could not be further apart. Jackson cannot hold Mahomes jock when it comes to putting the team on his back.
Lamar should consider signing with KC as a running back. Its the only way barring injury to Mahomes, that hes ever getting a ring.
Mahomes is the MVP. Its not even close. Lamar is a running back executing the halfback pass play about 20-25 times a game.
Jacksons first two years have ended with dud playoff performances.
Mahomes first two years as a starter sees his team hosting back to back AFC title games for a frachise that in its entire history never hosted a single one before he arrived. [Reply]
I’m so sick of how coddled LJ is. Even after this loss, Lamar’s ball washers are still out in force saying he’s still a young player and he’ll learn from this. Dude, you can’t teach accuracy, you can tweak a few mechanics but that’s it. He can’t win a shootout because he doesn’t have the consistent accuracy downfield that’s needed. He has yet to show the resiliency needed to come from behind and win. [Reply]
Originally Posted by frozenchief:
Everybody keeps praising Lamar but he’s never led a team back from being down by 10+ points. He’s dangerous because of his legs but I’ve never thought he was as good as his numbers suggest. Who knows. Maybe I’m just old and crotchety or too blinded by Mahomes’ play in KC. But I’d rather have Josh Allen than Lamar.
Lamar seems to me to be similar to Alex Smith: good enough to win games and get you into playoffs, but not good enough to put the team on his back and win. GOod enough that, surrounded by good personnel and decent coaches, you draft between spots 20 and 26 but never 31 or 32.
I agree but perhaps a better comparison is Michael Vick? [Reply]
Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic:
I’m so sick of how coddled LJ is. Even after this loss, Lamar’s ball washers are still out in force saying he’s still a young player and he’ll learn from this. Dude, you can’t teach accuracy, you can tweak a few mechanics but that’s it. He can’t win a shootout because he doesn’t have the consistent accuracy downfield that’s needed. He has yet to show the resiliency needed to come from behind and win.
You also can’t fix arm strength. Jackson has plenty when he is sitting in the pocket, but if he’s on the move he just can’t move it downfield with accuracy.
One of the reasons his accuracy isn’t great, IMO, is that his arm strength isn’t great. That’s why he struggles with the throws that require the most velocity AND accuracy. He can do one. He can’t do both beyond 10 yards.
Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan:
Guy on Good Morning Football said he wasn’t counting his TD’s last night he was counting the position he was placed in the top 100. Guess that’s touched a nerve since Jackson was #1
Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic:
I’m so sick of how coddled LJ is. Even after this loss, Lamar’s ball washers are still out in force saying he’s still a young player and he’ll learn from this. Dude, you can’t teach accuracy, you can tweak a few mechanics but that’s it. He can’t win a shootout because he doesn’t have the consistent accuracy downfield that’s needed. He has yet to show the resiliency needed to come from behind and win.
He is a very young player though. Won’t be 24 until January. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
What did we hear all week?
“Teams have tape and are starting to figure out Mahomes.”
Are teams not figuring out Jackson? Chiefs and Titans have both given teams the blueprint
Sure. The formula is:
1) Have a great front four that can create pressure from the outside and interior, with at least 3 above-average pass rushers and at least one elite pass rusher.
2) Have a DEEP secondary that features: at least 4 CBs - so you can rotate them and keep them fresh; at least 3 good S, including one who can play CF and at least one who can single up against TEs
3) Incredible discipline and consistent tackling across the entire back 7
How many teams have that blueprint?
The 49ers did (don't now, without Bosa and Buckner)
The Chargers DO
The Steelers have the pass rush and talent on the back end, but I don't think they have the depth the Chargers do at CB and S.
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
What did we hear all week?
“Teams have tape and are starting to figure out Mahomes.”
Are teams not figuring out Jackson? Chiefs and Titans have both given teams the blueprint
Well, I think the blueprint is about the same as the chargers and 49ers have to beat us. They don't have a blueprint. They just have the exact personnel and scheme to frustrate us. You beat Baltimore by taking them out of their game. The minute they press or can't beat a tired defense into submission in the second half, they have no answer. I don't think the challenge is stopping lamar, it's having to stop lamar, their running game, and defense at the same time. We can explode against their good defense in ways others can't. Our defense is also good enough to get just enough early stops.
So Baltimore will still be a tough team. But we are their daddy. Because our offense is their kryptonite. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Sure. The formula is:
1) Have a great front four that can create pressure from the outside and interior, with at least 3 above-average pass rushers and at least one elite pass rusher.
2) Have a DEEP secondary that features: at least 4 CBs - so you can rotate them and keep them fresh; at least 3 good S, including one who can play CF and at least one who can single up against TEs
3) Incredible discipline and consistent tackling across the entire back 7
How many teams have that blueprint?
The 49ers did (don't now, without Bosa and Buckner)
The Chargers DO
The Steelers have the pass rush and talent on the back end, but I don't think they have the depth the Chargers do at CB and S.
Other than that, who?
I would agree. That and the chargers and 49ers running that cover 3. It's currently our only offense weak spot. But... So was man to man just a year ago. Reid and mahomes are mad scientists who will figure this out. [Reply]
