Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Thursday marked the seventh consecutive day that Texas reported a record number of hospitalized coronavirus patients, with 2,947 people currently in hospitals being treated for COVID-19, according to data released Thursday by the Texas Department of State Health Services.
The latest seven-day average for the number of people hospitalized is 2,468. Since the beginning of June, hospitalizations have increased almost every day. There's almost twice as many people hospitalized because of the coronavirus than there was on Memorial Day. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Donger:
Thursday marked the seventh consecutive day that Texas reported a record number of hospitalized coronavirus patients, with 2,947 people currently in hospitals being treated for COVID-19, according to data released Thursday by the Texas Department of State Health Services.
The latest seven-day average for the number of people hospitalized is 2,468. Since the beginning of June, hospitalizations have increased almost every day. There's almost twice as many people hospitalized because of the coronavirus than there was on Memorial Day.
What will be interesting in the next couple of weeks is how this plays out. There is a sense from a significant group of people that have tracked the virus or on the front line that the virus is not as lethal as it once was. One would imagine, if true, that the hospitalizations will not equate to deaths to the degree they did earlier. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Yea cause you know that isn't just 1 aspect of all the dipshittery going on related to this. Walk around for 5 minutes and you'll so everyone seems to thin oh it's over, when it's not.
I'm not even sure why BigCat Daddy is still allowed in this thread, all he (or she) does is spread false information and try to bait people into political arguments. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kgrund:
What will be interesting in the next couple of weeks is how this plays out. There is a sense from a significant group of people that have tracked the virus or on the front line that the virus is not as lethal as it once was. One would imagine, if true, that the hospitalizations will not equate to deaths to the degree they did earlier.
Is there any new information on that? The only thing I saw was the single report from Italy, and that was at the beginning of June. [Reply]
Originally Posted by sedated:
I'm not even sure why BigCat Daddy is still allowed in this thread, all he (or she) does is spread false information and try to bait people into political arguments.
I don't have an answer for that....but it's mind numbing. [Reply]
Originally Posted by sedated:
I'm not even sure why BigCat Daddy is still allowed in this thread, all he (or she) does is spread false information and try to bait people into political arguments.
Just because I post factual shit about school starting back July 6th and that pisses simpletons off isn't ban worthy. You want group think and you damn near have it at this point after the other bannings. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kgrund:
What will be interesting in the next couple of weeks is how this plays out. There is a sense from a significant group of people that have tracked the virus or on the front line that the virus is not as lethal as it once was. One would imagine, if true, that the hospitalizations will not equate to deaths to the degree they did earlier.
The fact that a lot of these cases in some of these states are younger people should help. But we'll see. That would be great.
It's also why the Sweden strategy was dumb. People can't think ahead at all. If you hold out, you're buying time to figure out how to better treat it and reduce deaths, and it at least leaves the door open for the virus to peter out, obviously no guarantee of that but at least you're giving yourself the chance. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
Just because I post factual shit about school starting back July 6th and that pisses simpletons off isn't ban worthy. You want group think and you damn near have it at this point after the other bannings.
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
Just because I post factual shit about school starting back July 6th and that pisses simpletons off isn't ban worthy. You want group think and you damn near have it at this point after the other bannings.
Nah, it's because most of your colleagues have run out of things to say. At first it wasn't as bad as H1N1, then it wasn't as bad as the regular flu, then it wasn't as bad as the 1968 flu virus.
Now we're sitting here and this thing has killed more Americans than World War I. World War I.
Meanwhile the states where it's growing the most are the hottest states, the malaria drug you touted doesn't work, Sweden looks like a bunch of idiots, and meanwhile countries with strong leadership have been able to contain the virus and are getting somewhat back to normal. Meanwhile we might be stuck with this thing for another year or year and a half because we didn't get out ahead of it and didn't care.
Every single thing I told you you were wrong about 3 months ago has basically come true, and most people are generally smart enough to eventually walk away when they're getting their ass handed to them. [Reply]
Originally Posted by tk13:
Nah, it's because most of your colleagues have run out of things to say. At first it wasn't as bad as H1N1, then it wasn't as bad as the regular flu, then it wasn't as bad as the 1968 flu virus.
Now we're sitting here and this thing has killed more Americans than World War I. World War I.
Meanwhile the states where it's growing the most are the hottest states, the malaria drug you touted doesn't work, Sweden looks like a bunch of idiots, and meanwhile countries with strong leadership have been able to contain the virus and are getting somewhat back to normal. Meanwhile we might be stuck with this thing for another year or year and a half because we didn't get out ahead of it and didn't care.
Every single thing I told you you were wrong about 3 months ago has basically come true, and most people are generally smart enough to eventually walk away when they're getting their ass handed to them.
I have supported risk mitigation from the get go and all things considered I think if they were able to redo this they would never shutdown and worry about the high risk populations opposed to sending infected seniors back into nursing homes like certain dip shits did. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
I have supported risk mitigation from the get go and all things considered I think if they were able to redo this they would never shutdown and worry about the high risk populations opposed to sending infected seniors back into nursing homes like certain dip shits did.
So your strategy is to do it worse, that's bold. [Reply]
Originally Posted by tk13:
Nah, it's because most of your colleagues have run out of things to say. At first it wasn't as bad as H1N1, then it wasn't as bad as the regular flu, then it wasn't as bad as the 1968 flu virus.
Now we're sitting here and this thing has killed more Americans than World War I. World War I.
Meanwhile the states where it's growing the most are the hottest states, the malaria drug you touted doesn't work, Sweden looks like a bunch of idiots, and meanwhile countries with strong leadership have been able to contain the virus and are getting somewhat back to normal. Meanwhile we might be stuck with this thing for another year or year and a half because we didn't get out ahead of it and didn't care.
Every single thing I told you you were wrong about 3 months ago has basically come true, and most people are generally smart enough to eventually walk away when they're getting their ass handed to them.
