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Nzoner's Game Room>Fire Bob Sutton
petegz28 10:12 PM 10-19-2017
That is all.
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Chief Northman 11:26 AM 12-24-2018
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate:
Northman, you will note I was nowhere near the board during the game or after it. Nor am I going to even waste my time talking about a game I knew was over before it began.
Peace.
Fair and noted.
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rabblerouser 11:26 AM 12-24-2018
Originally Posted by Karlos:
The Vikings dumped their OC for less and look what happened there. There is no reason for us not to do the same with Sutton.

I wholeheartedly agree with this post, but I'm unable to contribute to the conversation in any meaningful way...
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carcosa 11:27 AM 12-24-2018
If Bob Sutton is retained as defensive coordinator, I think we have no choice but to find his house and burn it down with him inside
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Chris Meck 11:28 AM 12-24-2018
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan:
The shame with Nelson is that he is physically around the play a lot. He just has no ball sense. If he turned around and played the ball more, he would be a lot better. The play you are talking about is the prime example. He could have caught that ball himself or that the very least pushed Baldwin out of bounds the second he caught it.
100%

So, who is to blame for continually putting him in that position?

I think the number one problem is that Grampa Bob wants to play like he's got Revis in his prime and play bump-n-run man coverage and just blanket guys with his physical corners. Only you can't, not anymore. You can't. Especially not in a cover 0 or cover 1. Super especially not with brain dead safeties that have no idea where to go.

Nelson is only effective with the play in front of him. If he's trailing or running downfield with his back to the QB it's an easy DPI. EVERY FUCKING TIME. It's more efficient than any other play you could call.
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DanT 11:42 AM 12-24-2018
Originally Posted by Pushead2:
Serious question, has anyone in the KC media just come out and say:

"It seems like the defense isn't working. At what point will changes be made in regards to the coaching staff?"

The only time that I thoroughly enjoy the NYC media. They never hold back.
Seth Keysor, who covers the Chiefs for The Athletic, wrote a piece that was published December 17 and entitled, "The Evidence is Too Overwhelming: It's Time for the Chiefs to Move on from Defensive Coordinator Bob Sutton."
https://theathletic.com/717325/2018/...or-bob-sutton/
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rabblerouser 11:47 AM 12-24-2018
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
100%



I think the number one problem is that Grampa Bob wants to play like he's got Revis in his prime and play bump-n-run man coverage and just blanket guys with his physical corners. Only you can't, not anymore. You can't. Especially not in a cover 0 or cover 1. Super especially not with brain dead safeties that have no idea where to go.

I wholeheartedly agree with this post, but I'm unable to contribute to the conversation in any meaningful way...
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rabblerouser 11:48 AM 12-24-2018
Originally Posted by DanT:
Seth Keysor, who covers the Chiefs for The Athletic, wrote a piece that was published December 17 and entitled, "The Evidence is Too Overwhelming: It's Time for the Chiefs to Move on from Defensive Coordinator Bob Sutton."
https://theathletic.com/717325/2018/...or-bob-sutton/
Yeah but you gotta subscribe. No one reads those. Besides, even though
I wholeheartedly agree with this post, I'm unable to contribute to the conversation in any meaningful way...
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TEX 11:51 AM 12-24-2018
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan:
The shame with Nelson is that he is physically around the play a lot. He just has no ball sense. If he turned around and played the ball more, he would be a lot better. The play you are talking about is the prime example. He could have caught that ball himself or that the very least pushed Baldwin out of bounds the second he caught it.
He needs to stop watching William Bartee game films...
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NJChiefsFan 11:52 AM 12-24-2018
Originally Posted by TEX:
He needs to stop watching William Bartee game films...
William Bartee game film should be treated like nuclear waste.
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OGPantherStrong 11:55 AM 12-24-2018
I think there is a hint of irony about the Chiefs top brass. When it came to Hunt kicking the crap out of the young lady, finding out that he had lied about it, they dismissed him from the organization immediately. When it comes to the
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rabblerouser 11:58 AM 12-24-2018
Originally Posted by OGPantherStrong:
I think there is a hint of irony about the Chiefs top brass. When it came to Hunt kicking the crap out of the young lady, finding out that he had lied about it, they dismissed him from the organization immediately. When it comes to the

I wholeheartedly agree with this post, but I'm unable to contribute to the conversation in any meaningful way...
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FloridaMan88 11:59 AM 12-24-2018
Originally Posted by Pushead2:
Serious question, has anyone in the KC media just come out and say:

"It seems like the defense isn't working. At what point will changes be made in regards to the coaching staff?"

The only time that I thoroughly enjoy the NYC media. They never hold back.
Bob Sutton meets with the media every Thursday and I have yet to see him get asked the most basic of questions... what is your rationale for playing soft zone coverage on 3rd and 5 or 6?
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NJChiefsFan 12:01 PM 12-24-2018
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
Bob Sutton meets with the media every Thursday and I have yet to see him get asked the most basic of questions... what is your rationale for playing soft zone coverage on 3rd and 5 or 6?
I didn't even know that happened. He wouldn't survive those sessions in many markets.
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OGPantherStrong 12:02 PM 12-24-2018
Defense of the Chiefs, they have lied to us all year long. they assure us that they are going to fix the problems on the defensive side of the ball. I think they should fire Bob Sutton, the guy with white hair and the infinite clueless look on his face every time the camera points in his direction. I can look at him and see clearly he has no clue of what to call. He dials up blitzes but doesn't have the secondary to cover a cow without holding on to them dear life. Or even better, lets blitz with zone coverage on a 3rd and short and just give them the short middle route for a gain of 8 to 12 yards. This guys has got to go, for all of us who work in the real world for much less pay, if our performance was as lousy as his, we would be sitting in the HR department surrounded by management being served our termination paperwork
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OGPantherStrong 12:25 PM 12-24-2018
This is increasingly becoming harder by the year to watch. Unfortunately for my young son, who is being raised a Chiefs fan, the two of us attending every home game we can, I asked him if he would want to go to the Raiders upcoming, to his response was NO. I asked him why not and he told me, that he would prefer to not have to fight the traffic, fight the crowds, pay 6 bucks for a size small hot chocolate, have me pay money to watch them get beat, lose their number one seed and lose the West. The fan in me told him that was unlikely to happen, his response was to me was, the Chiefs don't have any defense and when they are losing in the fourth, Patrick Moholmes can't always do everything. The long and short of it all, my son is smarter than I, and the Chiefs organization will be facing the real threat of losing a severe numbered fan base with the next generation. Evidently, many of his close friends in school feel the same way. I know that there will be tough loses in any season, but the miracle offense as shown over the last 5 weeks, can't do everything. Chiefs have lost 3 out of their last 5 games. It's wake up time for somebody, as we all know, that is no way to enter the playoff's. I don't know how many more 1 and done's or 2 and through's I can take. I feel like a Chicago Cub's fan, in that the year I pass, they will win the whole thing. Unfortunately for the rest of KC Fans, I don't plan on checking out for a long while, unless it is by a heart attach from watching my beloved Chiefs play defense
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