Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
This is not over.
People should be wearing masks and distancing themselves. It's sound public health.
There is also a degree of difference in gathering in large groups to demonstrate anger over someone being murdered by a police officer and gathering in large groups to get drunk or bitch about a haircut, but continue with the false equivalency.
The virus distinguishes partisan differences?
Is this peer reviewed?
Or is it that righteous anger releases viral inhibitors?
School us on the science of the degrees of difference regarding morality and purpose as it relates to distancing and viral transmission. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage:
It seems like we get conflicting info a lot. Brazil is seeing way higher issues for people under 60 than most places. I think I read their numbers under 60 are 6x Italys which mainly had old people dying. Maybe that's just healthcare differences
It's almost as if those responsible for informing us are either lying or completely fucking clueless. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage:
It seems like we get conflicting info a lot. Brazil is seeing way higher issues for people under 60 than most places. I think I read their numbers under 60 are 6x Italys which mainly had old people dying. Maybe that's just healthcare differences
Brazil has a lot of really poor people that basically live on top of each other, they're entering the cold and flu season. Their numbers could end up being extremely bad because of everything that factors in there. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bwana:
Masks yes, but the whole social distancing part of it, not so much. I haven't been following the Rona thing much lately, but isn't the distancing part at least as important as a mask? In any event we should know a lot more in about two weeks.
It is very important but I think masks are too. From what I have read lately in regards to the Springfield hair stylist lady, so far no one else has tested positive which if true shows masks work even without social distancing. Or the test suck and the customers were just lucky :-) [Reply]
The last information I had seen on subject would defiantly back up your statement on distancing, but like I said, it been awhile since I tracked much information on the subject.
Social distancing >mask
Social distancing + masks>social distancing
Unable to social distance +mask> unable to social distance
I don't wear a mask in public if I can social distance, I wouldn't wear a mask for an extending period of time either
Masks: Everything you need to know but might be too afraid to ask
Also if you want to bring a mask with you in the car you could carry it in a clean paper bag , mark the bag on one side and always put the mask in in the same direction, always wash your hands before touching it even when removing it, so carry bottle of disinfectant. If using surgical masks replace daily , for cloth I would wash after every use even if it wasn't worn very long. [Reply]
Originally Posted by cdcox:
If your “reasonable social distancing” includes all of the following, good job and no complaints.
1. Washing hands 20 sec 10x per day if you are out in public.
2. Wearing masks when in public.
3. Staying 6 feet away from people not in your household if at all possible, brief passings excluded.
4. Stay home when you have any cold/flu symptom.
Hamas isn’t a POS. He is correct that the right not to have a anyone kneel on your ****ing throat slightly supersedes anyone’s right to get a haircut, regardless of any COVID measures or non-measures, period.
so it's okay to get the covid if you're mad but not okay if you want a hair cut???
Seems to me you still get the covid and all you people who spend post after post bashing anyone who doesn't wear a mask or wants to go out to eat are now embracing hypocrisy to its highest degree.
And you have the right not to have someone put their knee on your neck and kill you. You don't have the right to go loot and burn and frankly as we saw with the other protests "protest" because public health trumps all. Remember that??? Virtue signaling bullshit.
Remember all that shit? Pepperidge Farms does, mother ****er. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
This is not over.
People should be wearing masks and distancing themselves. It's sound public health.
There is also a degree of difference in gathering in large groups to demonstrate anger over someone being murdered by a police officer and gathering in large groups to get drunk or bitch about a haircut, but continue with the false equivalency.
Nice to see Hamas put a nail in the coffin of the legitimacy of this thread and his opinions. [Reply]
As anyone can see most of the contributors who actually posted pertinent information here have moved on to greener pastures to share and learn pandemic information. The trolls prevail, while the thread dies a sad predictable death. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Kidd Lex:
As anyone can see most of the contributors who actually posted pertinent information here have moved on to greener pastures to share and learn pandemic information. The trolls prevail, while the thread dies a sad predictable death.
