Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Agreed, I think, with what you are presenting. But shit, try getting people in the Midwest to wear a mask to the supermarket without freaking out. They are super pissed...about wearing covering that goes over their mouth and nose. Won't even do it for their country.
Aside from your ignorant take, try getting the majority of people to wear masks properly without re-using the same mask over and over, touching the outside of their mask then their face, etc., etc.
But you keep going with your non-sensical, bullshit. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Agreed, I think, with what you are presenting. But shit, try getting people in the Midwest to wear a mask to the supermarket without freaking out. They are super pissed...about wearing covering that goes over their mouth and nose. Won't even do it for their country.
Agreed I really think the problem is at the beginning of this deal the CDC was all over the place with their mask recommendations because they didn't want a toilet paper style run on masks which would have left too few for healthcare workers. So it's first you tell us masks don't work now you're trying to tell us not only they DO work but we HAVE to wear them. It pisses me off as well even though I kinda figured what was going on.
I think really it's just a matter of people with fever need to stay isolated and inside. More data is coming out on this deal and it really appears the risk of asymptomatic transmission is very low:
I'm not so sure that monitoring body temp at entrances to public places isn't a bad idea but that would probably go over about 10 times worse than masks. Lol But that could potentially be a way we could have stuff like a proper football season with fans in the stands. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Agreed, I think, with what you are presenting. But shit, try getting people in the Midwest to wear a mask to the supermarket without freaking out. They are super pissed...about wearing covering that goes over their mouth and nose. Won't even do it for their country.
Yes, this is EXACTLY what's happening here. NO ONE IS WEARING MASKS AND EVERYONE IS FUCKING FREAKING OUT.
I realize this isn't positive news, but I think it is nonetheless important to keep in mind -- in NJ overdose deaths are up, Jan-April, 19% over last year. That's a sizable jump unfortunately. I'm currently working through a study and some modeling of expected impact on deaths of despair (alcohol, drugs, suicide). Once I digest I'll post about it tomorrow. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bugeater:
Yes, this is EXACTLY what's happening here. NO ONE IS WEARING MASKS AND EVERYONE IS FUCKING FREAKING OUT.
Idiot.
Only place I see people with masks now are at the grocery stores, and that’s like 50% at best. Other than that, most everyone has already grown tired of the whole mask thing. [Reply]
This will be fun. Wearing a face mask around a hot amusement park all day.
We’ve been working hard to create a safe experience for everyone as we prepare to reopen. Here’s what you need to know about our NEW safety measures. pic.twitter.com/aKJkQHElKW
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Agreed, I think, with what you are presenting. But shit, try getting people in the Midwest to wear a mask to the supermarket without freaking out. They are super pissed...about wearing covering that goes over their mouth and nose. Won't even do it for their country.
Lol. For their country? Just because I won’t wear a mask doesn’t mean I’m not pro America. That’s the dumbest shit I’ve heard from you.
Do you even look at the majority of people that wear masks? They don’t wear it over their noses, constantly adjusting their makes with their dirty ass hands.
Maybe a quarter of the people I see wear masks. So 75% of Oklahoma is anti America. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Deberg_1990:
This will be fun. Wearing a face mask around a hot amusement park all day.
We’ve been working hard to create a safe experience for everyone as we prepare to reopen. Here’s what you need to know about our NEW safety measures. pic.twitter.com/aKJkQHElKW
Originally Posted by Deberg_1990:
This will be fun. Wearing a face mask around a hot amusement park all day.
We’ve been working hard to create a safe experience for everyone as we prepare to reopen. Here’s what you need to know about our NEW safety measures. pic.twitter.com/aKJkQHElKW
Originally Posted by Dunit35:
Lol. For their country? Just because I won’t wear a mask doesn’t mean I’m not pro America. That’s the dumbest shit I’ve heard from you.
Do you even look at the majority of people that wear masks? They don’t wear it over their noses, constantly adjusting their makes with their dirty ass hands.
Maybe a quarter of the people I see wear masks. So 75% of Oklahoma is anti America.
It's a straw man argument. Some of these maskholes are even accusing you of being a terrorist if you don't wear a mask. [Reply]
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Wait until a few kids pass out from heat and lack of oxygen.......
Frontier City in OKC is owned by Six Flags. They’re also requiring masks and have pissed off a lot of people with the mask rule. Let’s see if people actually follow through with the “I’m not visiting” threats and not show up. [Reply]
