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Nzoner's Game Room>*****The Breeland Speaks Thread*****
Dante84 06:08 PM 04-27-2018

Remember this guy? �� He’s headed to the Kansas City Chiefs. pic.twitter.com/H9Pqq8jPJS

— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) April 28, 2018



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staylor26 08:51 PM 04-30-2018
Originally Posted by Dante84:
I just love the effort. He tries to murder the ball carrier on every play, the way Suh does. I’m not saying he is as good as Suh, but he seems to have that “nasty” element to him.
Yea, I don’t think he’s getting enough credit for his hustle and motor. He’s always running to the ball no matter how far away it is.
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New World Order 09:03 PM 04-30-2018
Give him Bailey's spot. Let him play and improve.
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htismaqe 09:06 PM 04-30-2018
Originally Posted by New World Order:
Give him Bailey's spot. Let him play and improve.
He isn’t taking Bailey’s spot, he’s going to play Hali’s spot. Very similar players coming out, having played both inside and end in a 4-3.
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Chiefs=Champions 09:14 PM 04-30-2018
The guy's a natural pass-rusher and gap penetrator. He utilizes spins, rips, swims as well as a devastating bull rush, however he isnt consistent in setting up his moves or in fact using the whole variety. He has natural instincts to shoot gaps, which at times makes him contort his body sideways which can get him in trouble. He has a broad moveset which just needs refining. Improve his technique and he will be elite imo.
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jaa1025 04:09 AM 05-01-2018
I don't know how he compares to Suggs unless he's being compared to a slower, older version of him.
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Chiefnj2 06:37 AM 05-01-2018
It wasn't a good move for Reid to compare him to Suggs. A top 10 pick to a mid 2nd rounder? It just increases unrealistic expectations.
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staylor26 07:07 AM 05-01-2018
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2:
It wasn't a good move for Reid to compare him to Suggs. A top 10 pick to a mid 2nd rounder? It just increases unrealistic expectations.
Only if you’re an idiot that doesn’t realize he’s making a physical/skills comparison.
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jjchieffan 08:11 AM 05-01-2018
Originally Posted by kccrow:
It's certainly not a ringing endorsement when your GM says that the new 2nd round pick will be in the rotation and that last year's 2nd round pick will continue to develop. You shouldn't be developing 2nd round players to just see the field 2 years in.
I agree. That was my biggest frustration with Dorsey. Using high picks on guys that weren't ready is frustrating as hell. That's what later round picks are for. KPass, Jones, Ford, etc... None of them were ready year one. Jones took off year 2. Ford had a good 3rd year before getting hurt. And now we're going to be moving this years 2nd round pick above Tanoh in the depth chart while he develops. I won't complain about drafting a quarterback at 10 that needed a year to develop because that one looks like a home run. But seriously, with the roster churning every year due to free agency, retirement, declining abilities, etc., you just can't be using your high picks on guys that won't be ready for 2+ years.
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O.city 09:06 AM 05-01-2018
I like that he seems to be more ready to go than the past few pass rushing picks.

He may not have the upside of being a pro bowl pass rush type guy, but just a good solid player will do.
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OKchiefs 09:17 AM 05-01-2018
I've come around to being okay with this pick. Of course, this pick wouldn't be necessary if we hadn't of used our 2nd last year on a waste of a project like Kpass.
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OKchiefs 09:21 AM 05-01-2018
Originally Posted by aturnis:
Seems premature. Maybe they think it's time to move on from Houston?
Yes please. $20 million to drop in coverage and get stood up by backup tackles is too much.
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htismaqe 10:15 AM 05-01-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
I like that he seems to be more ready to go than the past few pass rushing picks.

He may not have the upside of being a pro bowl pass rush type guy, but just a good solid player will do.
You just described Hali coming out. He only topped 10 sacks in a season 3 times but only had less than 5 twice. Forced 33 fumbles in 9 seasons.

I can't help but see Hali in Speaks, I really like this pick. Not flashy but he's a guy that's just going to keep hammering and never give up.
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O.city 10:21 AM 05-01-2018
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
You just described Hali coming out. He only topped 10 sacks in a season 3 times but only had less than 5 twice. Forced 33 fumbles in 9 seasons.

I can't help but see Hali in Speaks, I really like this pick. Not flashy but he's a guy that's just going to keep hammering and never give up.
I agree.

Although, at some point, you've gotta hit a certain threshold of athletic ability which as we saw with Hali once it's gone, it sucks.

I think this will be a good pick. I don't know that it'll be a cornerstone defensive player pick but that's not what you always need.
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RunKC 10:38 AM 05-01-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
I agree.

Although, at some point, you've gotta hit a certain threshold of athletic ability which as we saw with Hali once it's gone, it sucks.

I think this will be a good pick. I don't know that it'll be a cornerstone defensive player pick but that's not what you always need.
Only potential cornerstone rushers in this draft were Chubb and Landry. Chiefs weren’t getting a cornerstone player (on paper) bc they didn’t pick until 46.

We need good role players bc this defense really fell apart once our role players in the last wave left (Husain Abdullah, Tyvone Branch, Mike DeVito, Sean Smith).

I think these draft picks were made in mind to just come in and do their job well so they can replace the awful production from last year.
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staylor26 10:42 AM 05-01-2018
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Only potential cornerstone rushers in this draft were Chubb and Landry. Chiefs weren’t getting a cornerstone player (on paper) bc they didn’t pick until 46.

We need good role players bc this defense really fell apart once our role players in the last wave left (Husain Abdullah, Tyvone Branch, Mike DeVito, Sean Smith).

I think these draft picks were made in mind to just come in and do their job well so they can replace the awful production from last year.
Which is fine and a great plan for this year.

I’d like to see us go for the homeruns with next year’s picks though. Even if that means being aggressive and trading up again.
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