This show has so many unlikeable characters that I wouldn’t be sad to see most of them killed off. I think Walker, Kayce and his family, Rainwater and Mo and the few extras in the bunkhouse are really the only characters that aren’t absolute pieces of shit. I liked Lloyd until his bullshit with Walker.
**** John Dutton the most. I have a few close friends that grew up on a ranch with narcissistic asshole fathers like him. I can see that the show really tries its best to make him one of the good ones by surrounding him with even worse people, but I’m really hoping it ends realistically and he dies alone without anyone to look after his ranch and “legacy”… [Reply]
Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED:
This show has so many unlikeable characters that I wouldn’t be sad to see most of them killed off. I think Walker, Kayce and his family, Rainwater and Mo and the few extras in the bunkhouse are really the only characters that aren’t absolute pieces of shit. I liked Lloyd until his bullshit with Walker.
**** John Dutton the most. I have a few close friends that grew up on a ranch with narcissistic asshole fathers like him. I can see that the show really tries its best to make him one of the good ones by surrounding him with even worse people, but I’m really hoping it ends realistically and he dies alone without anyone to look after his ranch and “legacy”…
Eff John I can understand, eff him the most I think it's fair to ask for additional exposition.
Is it just the personality? His paternal/leadership position?
Are there specific traits or acts that single him out in particular?
From my POV, he's hard and entitled and often dispassionately criminal, but he's rarely irrational or wrong in his assessment of the merits of the situation. There's plenty not to like about him, but don't see where he's the top dog to go get effed. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
Eff John I can understand, eff him the most I think it's fair to ask for additional exposition.
Is it just the personality? His paternal/leadership position?
Are there specific traits or acts that single him out in particular?
From my POV, he's hard and entitled and often dispassionately criminal, but he's rarely irrational or wrong in his assessment of the merits of the situation. There's plenty not to like about him, but don't see where he's the top dog to go get effed.
It just hits too close to home having friends that grew up in similar situations. What John has done to all of his kids is obviously hardcore child abuse, but it gets a pass in small communities like this, because it’s seen as “toughening you up.” It’s passed down from abusive father to abusive father in ranching communities like this and it’s just too close to a reality that I’ve seen first hand to root for an asshole like him. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry:
Who thinks it will come out that the guy that Jamie's mom was cheating with was John Dutton and he really is John's son, not his adopted one.
As it turns out, McGraw is actually old buddies with Hanks.
"You never want to botch a scene when you got Tom Hanks in there with you," McGraw told Cinemablend. "But yeah, he's a great guy. We've been friends for a long time. Rita, his wife, and Faith are best friends, and Tom and I've been friends for 25 years, 24 years. I knew that there was this part in there, and I gave him a call said, 'Hey, would you be interested in showing up doing a cameo in this show that we're doing?' And he goes, 'Tell me when to be there,' and he just showed up.'" [Reply]
I enjoyed most of the first three seasons but this season has been a total drag with the plot going nowhere. Kaycee (sp?) on his personal walkabout, Jamie being Jamie (why is that piece of s**t still alive?), Rip mostly following Beth around like a moon-eyed lap dog, Beth going from being an absolute bad*** to just plain evil and mean, with a side order of bunkhouse bunnies, horses going in circles and sliding on their butts. I usually fast forward through scenes involving Jimmie or Monica. The last episode might be a barn burner but I don't think it could save this season. :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by old_geezer:
I enjoyed most of the first three seasons but this season has been a total drag with the plot going nowhere. Kaycee (sp?) on his personal walkabout, Jamie being Jamie (why is that piece of s**t still alive?), Rip mostly following Beth around like a moon-eyed lap dog, Beth going from being an absolute bad*** to just plain evil and mean, with a side order of bunkhouse bunnies, horses going in circles and sliding on their butts. I usually fast forward through scenes involving Jimmie or Monica. The last episode might be a barn burner but I don't think it could save this season. :-)
I have actually enjoyed the new character "Carter", the stray boy, played by Finn Little for the most part.
Tough love would be my call so far, but I didn't care for the idea of making him a card shark.
No ****ing way can I fit that into reality.
The protest chick that ****ed John is also a nice twist IMO.
Somehow I would like to see them fade Beth's facial scar out, it's just wrong on such a beautiful woman. [Reply]
This is completely unrelated [creatively] to Yellowstone, but looks to be, in the words of the immortal Paul Harvey, the rest, . . . of the story, regarding the politics of land and land usage out west.
And I haven't seen anything but the trailer, so it's premature for the 'must see series' thread . . . :-)
And I clicked on it in youtube recommends not expecting much, . . . But then, DAG, Sharon Lawrence, . . . is that MICHAEL DORMAN?!?!
Originally Posted by displacedinMN:
much better tonight
REALLY??
I'm halfway through it, and I'm fucking hating this ridiculous farce. We have gone through a whole season where nothing happened...I have about 30 minutes left. I'm watching the "wedding" scene. [Reply]
I'm halfway through it, and I'm ****ing hating this ridiculous farce. We have gone through a whole season where nothing happened...I have about 30 minutes left. I'm watching the "wedding" scene.
My take on the last second wedding has to do with Beth saying there is something she needs to do today (wedding, then Jamie) and then once married confronting and threatening Jamie with 2 choices, one of which was Rip would kill him. Then a wife can't testify against a husband and vice versa. Her plan all along I think was to have Jamie kill dad, she knew he would break and she did say there is a third option thus finishing up that loose end. She put the gun on his desk when she was using his computer and I'm guessing left it there. And then the photo she takes at the train station of Jamie and Dad. That's cold on a Michael Corleone level. [Reply]
Originally Posted by fulltilt:
My take on the last second wedding has to do with Beth saying there is something she needs to do today (wedding, then Jamie) and then once married confronting and threatening Jamie with 2 choices, one of which was Rip would kill him. Then a wife can't testify against a husband and vice versa. Her plan all along I think was to have Jamie kill dad, she knew he would break and she did say there is a third option thus finishing up that loose end. She put the gun on his desk when she was using his computer and I'm guessing left it there. And then the photo she takes at the train station of Jamie and Dad. That's cold on a Michael Corleone level.
The gun she had was nickel plated, the gun he shot him with was black. But whatever. That was a long way to go for something that honestly makes no difference in the long run. Oooooohh she made him kill his daddy and then got a picture of him dumping the body so she could use that against him...whatever.
I'm serious, I haven't been this angry at a show since the finale of GoT. Let's review:
Monica, Kayce and the kid: Kayce is one of the best characters in this show. He was a complete and total no show this season. Monica was used sparingly (thank GOD) and the kid...pretty non-existent.
John Dutton - Did nothing. At all. Except screw some young protester chick who we're supposed to feel sorry for for some reason at the last episode.
Jamie - has become so much a whiny weak prick that I honestly wish option 3 was for him to kill himself.
Rip and Beth - whatever.
Jimmy and the bunk house - I did not sign up to watch a goddamn soap opera, but that's pretty much what we got.
If this was season one, this show would never have gotten more seasons. This season was so bad as to be completely ignore-able. NOTHING HAPPENED. Beth's bad ass persona was played out and overbearing given the lack of any real problems this season.
Originally Posted by fulltilt:
My take on the last second wedding has to do with Beth saying there is something she needs to do today (wedding, then Jamie) and then once married confronting and threatening Jamie with 2 choices, one of which was Rip would kill him. Then a wife can't testify against a husband and vice versa. Her plan all along I think was to have Jamie kill dad, she knew he would break and she did say there is a third option thus finishing up that loose end. She put the gun on his desk when she was using his computer and I'm guessing left it there. And then the photo she takes at the train station of Jamie and Dad. That's cold on a Michael Corleone level.
I think you are correct. I believe the ultimate plan was to own Jamie so John can drop out of the governor race and let Jamie become governor. Then they can control what happens with the corporation that is trying to build on the ranch. [Reply]
