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Nzoner's Game Room>Fire Bob Sutton
petegz28 10:12 PM 10-19-2017
That is all.
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chiefzilla1501 11:36 PM 12-19-2018
Originally Posted by lcarus:
I bet he won't fire him but he'll retire or resign. That's my hope anyway.
I'm being way too optimistic about this. It just feels like Veach shopped for 4-3 groceries and I don't think he's going to ask a 67-year old 3-4 coach and a 75 year old DBs coach to lead that march. Either they didn't like the DC candidates available (there will be plenty of Reid tree guys this offseason). Also possible they want to transition Defenses but want to make it painful (our D has warts, but it might have been worse if we experimented with a 4-3 right away). Again, just trying to be over over optimistic. I'm skeptical, but there's some reason for hope.
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Aspengc8 06:30 AM 12-20-2018
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
I'm being way too optimistic about this. It just feels like Veach shopped for 4-3 groceries and I don't think he's going to ask a 67-year old 3-4 coach and a 75 year old DBs coach to lead that march. Either they didn't like the DC candidates available (there will be plenty of Reid tree guys this offseason). Also possible they want to transition Defenses but want to make it painful (our D has warts, but it might have been worse if we experimented with a 4-3 right away). Again, just trying to be over over optimistic. I'm skeptical, but there's some reason for hope.
What even front personnel do they have? You would need to have Ford,Houston, Jones and Nnadi on the line, and what coverage backers do they have? hitchens and ragland are terrible in coverage. DoD is probably their best converage backer.
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OlineDline 02:49 PM 12-20-2018
43/34 really doesn't matter that much anymore.

Everyone is 245 for the majority of snaps.

Talent.

The secondary needs talent.

Draft at least 2 or 3 DBs and bring in an FA or five.
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chiefzilla1501 03:06 PM 12-20-2018
Originally Posted by Aspengc8:
What even front personnel do they have? You would need to have Ford,Houston, Jones and Nnadi on the line, and what coverage backers do they have? hitchens and ragland are terrible in coverage. DoD is probably their best converage backer.
Ragland should be out no matter what.

I've talked a lot about Pagano's 3-4 Under which is a 4-3 defense run out of a 3-4 front. O'Daniel is an ideal coverage LB. Jones, Nnadi, Speaks, Bailey easily have a place whether it's a 4-3 or a 4-3 run out of a 3-4 front. Speaks also gives us other options to think about at OLB, where I imagine both Houston & Ford (but especially Houston) would thrive in either front. The wild card for me is Hitchens, but he's done fine in a 4-3 role.
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TimeForWasp 04:56 PM 12-20-2018

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Sorce 10:15 PM 12-22-2018
Listened to the announcers tonight talk about how the Ravens DC simplified the defense to make it easier to get younger. Fuck Bob

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suzzer99 10:38 PM 12-22-2018
Watching that Ravens D vs. ours is like watching two different sports. And it's not just the scheme. They swarm to the ball, make solo tackles all over the field, punch the ball out, etc.

Our scheme sucks, but our effort is just as bad.
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FloridaMan88 10:39 PM 12-22-2018
Hire someone, anyone from the Ravens defensive coaching staff to be the Chiefs next DC.
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T-post Tom 10:40 PM 12-22-2018
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
Hire someone, anyone from the Ravens defensive coaching staff to be the Chiefs next DC.
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GloryDayz 10:42 PM 12-22-2018
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
Hire someone, anyone from the Ravens defensive coaching staff to be the Chiefs next DC.
999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999x this!
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T-post Tom 10:47 PM 12-22-2018
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
Watching that Ravens D vs. ours is like watching two different sports. And it's not just the scheme. They swarm to the ball, make solo tackles all over the field, punch the ball out, etc.

Our scheme sucks, but our effort is just as bad.
Pre-snap alignment for Ravens is most always spot on. Players make right reads. It's a combination of both. Yes we need better players in secondary.. but is there any doubt that the Raven's DC would vastly improve our defense? Sacking Sutton would be the best first move.
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ChiefsLV 10:48 PM 12-22-2018
I'm holding out hope that Berry can turn us into an average defense but it's kind of a double edge sword because it might mean Bob survives if we're successful enough. Just hoping Bob retires at this point.
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T-post Tom 11:02 PM 12-22-2018
Originally Posted by ChiefsLV:
I'm holding out hope that Berry can turn us into an average defense but it's kind of a double edge sword because it might mean Bob survives if we're successful enough. Just hoping Bob retires at this point.
That is a serious catch-22. Give me a SB win and I'll personally put the horse's head in Bobby's bed. :-)
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suzzer99 11:04 PM 12-22-2018
I think Bob's gone barring a massive defensive turnaround. Just an upgrade to the #20th best D isn't gonna do it.
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T-post Tom 11:15 PM 12-22-2018
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
I think Bob's gone barring a massive defensive turnaround. Just an upgrade to the #20th best D isn't gonna do it.
From your lips to Andy's ears.
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