Originally Posted by staylor26:
While true, he still had to leave so they could tank and get a guy like Kyrie. If Lebron never leaves Cleveland, that doesn’t happen and he’d probably be ringless.
He didn’t go back to Cleveland to do it the hard way. He went back to Cleveland to play with Kyrie/Love who were younger and better for the long term than Wade and Bosh.
Dude. What the fuck was Cleveland getting Lebron for help?
He felt that he had to leave because he was sick and tired of playing with Anderson fucking Verejao as his post scorer. The team wasn't drafting well at all, and they weren't signing shit.
THAT was not Lebron's fault. He wasn't playing GM in that part of his career. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Dude. What the fuck was Cleveland getting Lebron for help?
He felt that he had to leave because he was sick and tired of playing with Anderson fucking Verejao as his post scorer. The team wasn't drafting well at all, and they weren't signing shit.
THAT was not Lebron's fault. He wasn't playing GM in that part of his career.
Yeah I don't give LeBron shit for his first Cleveland stint. It's not till he moved to Miami that he started getting in his own way. He even tried to get Spo fired until Pat Riley put his foot down. But the failures of the Cavs in his first stint weren't on him. Posted via Mobile Device [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry:
Durant was Conference champs, 2 times conference runner up in 5 years before he left Oklahoma City. One year they didn't make the playoffs is because he got hurt. Along with their famous choke job to the Warriors.
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Dude. What the **** was Cleveland getting Lebron for help?
He felt that he had to leave because he was sick and tired of playing with Anderson ****ing Verejao as his post scorer. The team wasn't drafting well at all, and they weren't signing shit.
THAT was not Lebron's fault. He wasn't playing GM in that part of his career.
I’m not saying it was his fault, or that he made he wrong decision. I’m just stating the obvious. If Lebron never leaves, they never get Kyrie or an asset like Wiggins that they traded for an All-Star. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Dude. What the **** was Cleveland getting Lebron for help?
He felt that he had to leave because he was sick and tired of playing with Anderson ****ing Verejao as his post scorer. The team wasn't drafting well at all, and they weren't signing shit.
THAT was not Lebron's fault. He wasn't playing GM in that part of his career.
He was calling all the shots the last few years, including that useless trade for antawn Jamison. His surrounding talent wasn't as bad as you make it. They were an elite defense and it suited his talents as an iso player better than you might expect. I mean, people rip on Eric snow, but kobe called him the toughest defender he's ever faced. We all know Lebron has the pull to bring in superstars for cheap. Everyone also knows that the cavs not only bent over backwards, they were on their knees to keep Lebron in Cleveland. He almost definitely had a role both in the players they got and didn't get. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Dude. What the **** was Cleveland getting Lebron for help?
He felt that he had to leave because he was sick and tired of playing with Anderson ****ing Verejao as his post scorer. The team wasn't drafting well at all, and they weren't signing shit.
THAT was not Lebron's fault. He wasn't playing GM in that part of his career.
He had Kyrie and Kyrie didn't want to play with him. So LeBron needs to take some of the blame for Cavs current supporting roster. It's a team leaders job to keep his teammates happy. MJ was able to make it work with Rodman. LeBron failed with Kyrie big time... [Reply]
Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy:
He had Kyrie and Kyrie didn't want to play with him. So LeBron needs to take some of the blame for Cavs current supporting roster. It's a team leaders job to keep his teammates happy. MJ was able to make it work with Rodman. LeBron failed with Kyrie big time...
No, Kyrie didn't want to be second fiddle to Lebron [Reply]
