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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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limested 08:07 AM 05-19-2020
Originally Posted by BWillie:
The amount of people in critical care has maintained pretty steady over the last 3 weeks, and the good news is deaths per day seems to have declined to 800 - 1600. Has there been a breakthrough in treatment recently? It may just be the timing of the cases in the other states outside of the Northeast though, I suppose.
Viral respiratory infections tend to drop significantly this time of year. This was expected. The worry is that it come back hard in the fall.
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RedRaider56 08:11 AM 05-19-2020
Originally Posted by limested:
When they switched from fresh made dough to the pre-made frozen was when I thought it changed the most.
It's pretty funny when my oldest daughter complains about a pizza from a really nice Italian restaurant being greasy. I tell her its because they are using real meat and real cheese, not fake stuff. No matter how many times I tell her that, she still complains. :-)
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Mecca 08:17 AM 05-19-2020
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15:
Just what, a week after Georgia got busted putting days out of order on their graphs to make the numbers look better?
https://www.tampabay.com/news/health...r-emails-show/
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Kidd Lex 08:23 AM 05-19-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
https://twitter.com/collignonpeter/s...687307778?s=21

So that’s good news
I swear we’ve heard this somewhere before in this thread that this is almost certainly what was happening... Thanks for posting O.city, this is good confirmation yet again that the headlines from Saturday were just fear mongering bs.
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RINGLEADER 08:29 AM 05-19-2020
Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED:
Insane. This is no time for censorship. Wonder why she won’t say what numbers they were trying to make her change. I do always find it odd that these data websites make it nearly impossible to get a breakdown of the total deaths by age. You think that would be something most people would want to know.
Many states have more detailed breakdowns and they’re all fairly similar — the last one I saw showed that 83% of the deaths were in the 65+ group and nearly half were in nursing homes. I separately read in USA Today that almost 10% of those who contracted it and died were not necessarily killed by it, but with it (something that was closer to 20% when CO revised their numbers to account for it). Not sure how much of that 10% overlaps with the other groups.

If those numbers held up nationwide it would mean that about 15K deaths have occurred outside of nursing homes and the elderly. Not that those groups aren’t precious, but in nursing homes are already out of the workforce and those over 65 are about 5% of that workforce pre-covid. I think many would like to keep those 5% at highest risk at home and let the rest of the world go back to work.
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PAChiefsGuy 08:37 AM 05-19-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
I worked at Pizza Hut when I was a teenager and I can tell you the difference I saw when their pizza went to shit was the cheese. When I worked there you put sauce, cheese, toppings and more cheese. No it looks like they just throw one shit layer of cheese on.
I always felt Pizza Huts pizza was way too greasy and it always upsets my stomach. All chain pizzas tend to do that to me but Pizza Hut was always by far the worst so I stay away.

It tastes good but nothing crazy and not worth ****ing my stomach up.
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Marcellus 08:45 AM 05-19-2020
There is a clear trend here that should be encouraging.

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Kidd Lex 08:53 AM 05-19-2020
This is also great news regarding T Cells and cross immunity from other Coronavirus as well as prospects for longer term immunity:

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...-term-immunity

We’ve come a long ways from the darkest days of this virus. Science rocks!
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PAChiefsGuy 08:55 AM 05-19-2020
Originally Posted by Kidd Lex:
This is also great news regarding T Cells and cross immunity from other Coronavirus as well as prospects for longer term immunity:

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...-term-immunity

We’ve come a long ways from the darkest days of this virus. Science rocks!
The worst is over which is great.
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BleedingRed 08:56 AM 05-19-2020
Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy:
The worst is over which is great.
I don't know, not being able to go to a Chiefs game this year is pretty sad.

:-)
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PAChiefsGuy 09:01 AM 05-19-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
I don't know, not being able to go to a Chiefs game this year is pretty sad.

:-)
You'll live... Not the end of the world... But yeah it does suck!!
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BleedingRed 09:02 AM 05-19-2020
Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy:
You'll live... Not the end of the world...
Yeah, but it is something I like to really do with my Grandfather. Don't know how many more games I'll get to enjoy with him is all.
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PAChiefsGuy 09:08 AM 05-19-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Yeah, but it is something I like to really do with my Grandfather. Don't know how many more games I'll get to enjoy with him is all.
I hear you man. Situation sucks. Look at it like this at least he is alive. Plenty of ppl lost their Grandfathers to this virus.
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TLO 09:08 AM 05-19-2020
IHME updated again.

I don't see a lot of noticeable changes except it went off the rails in Arizona.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/unite...merica/arizona
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DaFace 09:10 AM 05-19-2020
Originally Posted by RINGLEADER:
Many states have more detailed breakdowns and they’re all fairly similar — the last one I saw showed that 83% of the deaths were in the 65+ group and nearly half were in nursing homes. I separately read in USA Today that almost 10% of those who contracted it and died were not necessarily killed by it, but with it (something that was closer to 20% when CO revised their numbers to account for it). Not sure how much of that 10% overlaps with the other groups.

If those numbers held up nationwide it would mean that about 15K deaths have occurred outside of nursing homes and the elderly. Not that those groups aren’t precious, but in nursing homes are already out of the workforce and those over 65 are about 5% of that workforce pre-covid. I think many would like to keep those 5% at highest risk at home and let the rest of the world go back to work.
My issue is just that it's really not possible to truly keep that group isolated. Many of them rely on family members to help with chores, shopping, medications, etc., so they'll still have contact with the "infected world." It will also hit hardest among families where grandparents are living with a larger family (typically lower-income and minorities).

But it is what it is at this point. The grand re-opening is happening, so all we can do is try and hope for the best.
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