Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Well, for a city that's supposedly "shut down", it was sure busy as hell today.
I was in Burbank, North Hollywood, Sun Valley and Studio City from 10am to 3pm and while traffic wasn't as heavy as pre-C19, it was heavier than I'd seen in since early March. Costco wasn't "packed" at 10am but it wasn't exactly empty, either. They had ground beef but no fresh chicken, which sucks. The weird thing is that today, they had rotisserie chicken for the first time in probably a month. I was also able to buy Kirkland Toilet Paper and Napkins for the first time since February, which to me, is a good sign that production is beginning to catch up with demand.
The other stores, Vallarta, which is a Mexican grocery store in the valley and Ralphs, we're pretty darn packed with people. The checkout lines were longer than usual and it wasn't just because of Social Distancing, it's because there was a lot more people. Many of the shelves were still empty but even they had toilet paper on the rack for the first time since March.
Road construction in the valley was insane and new building construction was going on everywhere. Lake Hollywood was crowded yesterday as well but everywhere I went, people were following the law and wearing masks, so this is a step in the right direction for sure. [Reply]
Originally Posted by lewdog:
I tested positive for COVID. I have asthma and hypertension. I never had any symptoms.
Please stop pretending that you know who this will effect and who it won’t.
So you don’t think him having asthma is relevant or adds any context? Got it.
Also, when did I say I know who this will effect and who it won’t? JFC that’s a straw man if I’ve ever seen one. You and whoever upvoted your dumb post are both morons if you think that’s what I was saying. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
So you don’t think him having asthma is relevant or adds any context? Got it.
Also, when did I say I know who this will effect and who it won’t? JFC that’s a straw man if I’ve ever seen one. You and whoever upvoted your dumb post are both morons if you think that’s what I was saying.
Originally Posted by lewdog:
Let me guess, you’re another perfectly healthy person with no pre existing conditions like the rest of us.
C'mon, Lew. You know he is just saying that Miller had an underlying which most likely led to a more serious infection or at least it certainly didn't help matters any.
The fact that you never had any symptoms is great and maybe even a bit lucky, I don't know. Hopefully more people end up in your situation than his. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaFace:
You seem like an angry person.
You seem like you’d have a punchable face.
How else am I supposed to respond to people telling my I don’t care about people dying, and constantly putting words in my mouth (like you did before and lewdog is doing now)? If you don’t want to piss me off, stop with the straw mans and giving me shit for pointing out “a world class athlete” who had a bad corona experience also had asthma. [Reply]
Originally Posted by eDave:
This what I was talking about staylor.
I simply said Von Miller also had asthma to add context to Mecca’s post and got accused of claiming that I know who will or won’t be effected by corona when I never said anything remotely close to that.
Originally Posted by staylor26:
You seem like you’d have a punchable face.
How else am I supposed to respond to people telling my I don’t care about people dying, and constantly putting words in my mouth (like you did before and lewdog is doing now)? If you don’t want to piss me off, stop with the straw mans and giving me shit for pointing out “a world class athlete” who had a bad corona experience also had asthma.
You can respond civilly instead of getting outraged. [Reply]
