Possibly goes top 10 but is a big, physical SP with ace potential. Moore and co. will be all over him if he slips a bit and could offer top 10 money at No. 16
OF Jarred Kelenic, Waukasha West HS, WI
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Kelenic is the top prep bat, toolsy OF. Royals would be ecstatic to have shot at him.
1B Triston Casas, American Heritage HS (FL).
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Tremendous raw power, best in HS bats. Royals typically like HS arms or HS bats with "special" tools. He qualifies.
RHP Carter Stewart, Eau de Gallie HS (Ga).
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Another big, physical specimen with huge upside. More likely to be available mid-first than Rocker.
ANY Any, Any (Any). Any current top projected pick who slides for injury concerns. Includes current top prospect prospect SP Brady Singer, U of Florida.
Current Prospects to Watch:
OF Seuly Matias - Huge tools. Hit 2 HR in Lexington (A) season opener.
1B Nick Pratto - Top pick in 17 has advanced approach and good glove; needs to start tapping into power in first full year in minors. Also at Lexington.
OF Michael Gigliotti - Good defender in CF, good OBP skills, plus baserunner. Next mainstay in CF for KC, IMO. Advanced college bat also starting at Lexington.
OF Khalil Lee - Probably has highest upside in Royals' system. Could hit 30 HR in majors, could steal 30 bases. Plus defensive ability in RF. Nice test at Wilmington this year.
3B Emmanuel Rivera - Really nice approach and good contact skills. Power is still developing. Also getting a good test at Wilmington.
SP Foster Griffin - Made nice strides in 2017. Needs to continue to progress in 2018. Could be a lefty version of Jakob Junis (good breaking ball that he can really manipulate, OK fastball, good command).
1B Samir Duenez - Duenez still is intriguing, hoping for a step forward in his power production this year at Northwest Arkansas, which would turn him into a legit prospect.
Others to keep an eye on:
SP Gerson Garabito (Wilmington), OF Marten Gasparini (Lexington), C MJ Melendez (Lexington), RP Tyler Zuber (lexington), RP Richard Lovelady (Omaha), SP Dan Tillo (Lexington), SS Nicky Lopez (NWA), SP Scott Blewett (NWA), OF Brewer Hicklen (Idaho Falls),
In general, Lexington and Wilmington are the most interesting spots to watch. Nice depth and a lot of interesting pieces at both. [Reply]
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
That's mostly been from early season struggles. He's been much better lately, and I'm assuming he will continue to return to his career norms. If he pitches 3.00 ERA or so the rest of the year I would imagine teams would go off of that and not what he did to start the season.
Unfortunately, teams have to trade for all of his starts, not just the good ones. The return your imagining just isn't going to be there. [Reply]
Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat:
Unfortunately, teams have to trade for all of his starts, not just the good ones. The return your imagining just isn't going to be there.
Teams trade based on future potential, not what happened in the past. They don't just blindly look at a stat sheet and see a 4.00 era. I'm far from the only person to suggest Duffy will possibly get traded at some point. [Reply]
Originally Posted by tk13:
Not to mention the Guthrie trade, the Shields trade, and the jury is still out on the Soler trade. Dayton's done a decent job with trades, even though he's often criticized for them. Even for Herrera, he got more than the Mets did for Familia.
Now free agent signings are a whole other deal, he's not done very well there, but as we've seen this offseason teams are starting to get more stingy when it comes to FA because it's such a risk.
The Soler move is looking pretty good as this point. [Reply]
Worst ERA in Royals history, min. 30 IP: Brandon Maurer 10.41 Victor Marte 9.30 Tim Byrdak 8.27 Hector Wagner 7.83 Jonathan Sanchez 7.76 Miguel Batista 7.74
Originally Posted by Fish:
Yeah! Breaking records!
Worst ERA in Royals history, min. 30 IP: Brandon Maurer 10.41 Victor Marte 9.30 Tim Byrdak 8.27 Hector Wagner 7.83 Jonathan Sanchez 7.76 Miguel Batista 7.74
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
Will Meyers trade was still part of buying big league talent. I still see a distinction between buying big league talent and selling. He's had no problem buying, but I personally don't like the track record on selling. I guess he hasn't been a seller that often for us to be too judgemental, although that in and of itself is a problem as well. He has a track record of hanging on to guys for too long and not selling when the opportunity presents itself. The Zack Greinke trade is the only trade where he has gotten a huge return. Even that trade was viewed as less than what should have been expected. In hindsight the trade worked out great, but I don't think you can expect every trade that looks a little light on the return to pay off beyond what is expected.
I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not the only one to suggest Moore is gun shy on pulling off big trades or to question his ability to get a big return.
You only get a big return when you sell a big, valuable piece.
Those are literally the only two major pieces Moore has sold during his time as GM. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
You only get a big return when you sell a big, valuable piece.
Those are literally the only two major pieces Moore has sold during his time as GM.
That's kind of a further indictment of Moore, is it not? Other franchises have at least drafted or signed in IFA well enough to have valuable pieces to trade. We're left with a rental player that will get a minimal return (Moustakas) and two decent players that we hope might get a decent return (Duffy and Merrifield). [Reply]
Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin:
And Mauer blows the game.
What a turd this guy is. I don’t understand why we keep him on the team.
Yes, I realize it doesn’t matter ultimately (except for the rook who just got his great effort pissed all over).
Just DFA Maurer, seriously. I’m sure we gotta another below average bullpen arm we can stick in there that will still be better than that pile of shit.
No way. Put him in everytime we have a lead at this point so we can lose and get that #1 pick. Great way to sandbag. [Reply]
Bryce Harper. 1.4fWAR and we are 2/3 done. I once claimed he's the most overrated player in MLB....has had only 1 great year. DeezNuts went nuts and screamed how dumb it was.
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
That's kind of a further indictment of Moore, is it not? Other franchises have at least drafted or signed in IFA well enough to have valuable pieces to trade. We're left with a rental player that will get a minimal return (Moustakas) and two decent players that we hope might get a decent return (Duffy and Merrifield).
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
That's kind of a further indictment of Moore, is it not? Other franchises have at least drafted or signed in IFA well enough to have valuable pieces to trade. We're left with a rental player that will get a minimal return (Moustakas) and two decent players that we hope might get a decent return (Duffy and Merrifield).
Only if you’re trying to be negative about Moore.
They’ve had plenty of pieces that would have commanded huge returns had they moved them, but they didn’t because they were in a contention cycle for the past 7 years.
They could have gotten a ton for Alex Gordon after 2012. Or Hosmer, Moustakas, Cain, Perez, Ventura after 2015. Or Duffy after 2016. etc.
They haven’t sold big because the team hasn’t been a seller of major pieces since 2010/2011.
The closest they came was midseason 2016, when they had a deal lined up with the Nats for Trea Turner or some young OF named Victor Robles and Felipe Rivero and some other pieces (for Cain and Davis). That deal fell apart because Davis’s elbow sent him to the DL for the second time. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Only if you’re trying to be negative about Moore.
They’ve had plenty of pieces that would have commanded huge returns had they moved them, but they didn’t because they were in a contention cycle for the past 7 years.
They could have gotten a ton for Alex Gordon after 2012. Or Hosmer, Moustakas, Cain, Perez, Ventura after 2015. Or Duffy after 2016. etc.
They haven’t sold big because the team hasn’t been a seller of major pieces since 2010/2011.
The closest they came was midseason 2016, when they had a deal lined up with the Nats for Trea Turner or some young OF named Victor Robles and Felipe Rivero and some other pieces (for Cain and Davis). That deal fell apart because Davis’s elbow sent him to the DL for the second time.
Saving OKchiefs the trouble...
Moore should have known Wade's elbow was about to be a problem and traded him earlier. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Only if you’re trying to be negative about Moore.
They’ve had plenty of pieces that would have commanded huge returns had they moved them, but they didn’t because they were in a contention cycle for the past 7 years.
They could have gotten a ton for Alex Gordon after 2012. Or Hosmer, Moustakas, Cain, Perez, Ventura after 2015. Or Duffy after 2016. etc.
They haven’t sold big because the team hasn’t been a seller of major pieces since 2010/2011.
The closest they came was midseason 2016, when they had a deal lined up with the Nats for Trea Turner or some young OF named Victor Robles and Felipe Rivero and some other pieces (for Cain and Davis). That deal fell apart because Davis’s elbow sent him to the DL for the second time.
You are correct that I am pretty negative on Moore. I suppose you're right that we haven't had many opportunities to trade assets before. I'm still skeptical that Moore can pull off some decent trades, but of course I hope I'm wrong. IMO neither Merrifield or Duffy should be on the team a year from now, meaning they should be traded now or at the winter meetings. Barring an injury or complete collapse by either player they both should fetch sizable returns, if Moore is capable of doing so. [Reply]