Will update as people declare for the draft/transfer/commit
ROSTER:
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RETURNING PLAYERS
G Devonte Graham - Sr.
F Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk - Sr.
G Malik Newman - Jr.
G Legerald Vick - Jr.
F Udoka Azubuike - soph.
F Mitch Lightfoot - soph
INCOMING PLAYERS
F Billy Preston - Fr.
6'9" - 240 lb
G Sam Cunliffe - Soph (eligible after first semester)
6'6" - 200 lb
BONUS:
His sister:
G Marcus Garrett - Fr.
6'5" - 180lb
F Jack Whitman - SR.
6'9" - 220 lb
BYE BYE
Frank Mason, National player of the year
Landen Lucas, chased a rebound all the way to Europe
Josh Jackson, Can't wait to be a Boston Celtic Phoenix Sun.
Carlton Bragg, Crazy bitch antics
Dwight Coleby, Transfers gonna transfer, good luck.
UPDATE: Important new dates:
Kansas 2017 Summer Tour - Italy
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Originally Posted by : Wednesday, August 2, 6:30 p.m. (11:30 a.m. Central)
Kansas vs. Stella Azzurra, HSC (Rome)
Thursday, August 3, 6:30 p.m. (11:30 a.m. Central)
Kansas vs. Players Group, HSC (Rome)
Saturday, August 5, 7 p.m. (Noon Central)
Kansas vs. Players Group, PalaSport Enrico Somaschini
Sunday, August 6, 7 p.m. (Noon Central)
Kansas vs. Italy All Star A2, PalaSport Enrico Somaschini
Originally Posted by Lzen:
I agree with the folks about KCC. He shouldn't be banned, IMO. But a name change might be in order. Perhaps something like Eyore?
Has he been unbanned from this thread yet?
Yeah he was being way too negative but he is a KU fan. I'd hate to have this thread turn into a bunch of homers like me. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
Xavier gets bounced before the sweet 16 2 of the last 3 years.
Michigan State gets bounced before the sweet 16 3 straight years.
Virginia gets bounced before the sweet 16 3 of the last 5 years.
yet, we are the team who always chokes?
We are held to higher standards. We are compared to Duke, Carolina, and Kentucky. They've all been to several Final Fours or won multiple titles (or at least been to multiple title games) since we were last made it as far as we "should." That's why I think we get the choker label even though all three of those mentioned schools have missed the tourney since the last time we did. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Lzen:
I agree with the folks about KCC. He shouldn't be banned, IMO. But a name change might be in order. Perhaps something like Eyore?
I don't think what he's doing is bad. He's highlighting the concerns in each matchup which I think is fair game. I might also use KenPom to paint the picture from the other angle as well though. [Reply]
Kansas has the misfortune of being on the complete wrong side of the bracket and having the toughest road remaining of any of the top teams. For example, they've only got a 22% chance to make the FF according to KenPom (far below the 40-50% of teams like Villanova/Duke/Gonzaga) while KState (who, as everyone knows, is a bad team with an even worse coach) is at 16%. Must be nice to have Kentucky/Loyola/Nevada as opponents next weekend rather than Clemson and Duke. Of course, an "easier" road isn't necessarily a guarantee either as we've learned over the years... [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJay23:
I don't think what he's doing is bad. He's highlighting the concerns in each matchup which I think is fair game. I might also use KenPom to paint the picture from the other angle as well though.
To an extent, sure... except it's in a clickbait way.
It's one thing to state what kenpom says and look at matchup and strengths/weakness, etc.. that stuff can be pretty interesting. It's another to repeatedly say KU is on upset alert over Penn while overstating their strength without looking at anything else, then do the same for Seton Hall and Clemson, etc.... especially when it's pretty freakin' obvious what actually happens in a single elimination tournament doesn't really have to do with what kenpom says (except in a nice self-fulfilling way... oh KU had a 53% chance to win and they did. Kenpom!).
So much of it is ridiculously overblown and completely lacking any sort of in depth look at the numbers, and some of it has been flat wrong (KU isn't the even the weakest 1 this season, much less the past several years, etc.), which is why so many people have been laughing at all of it... all while two other 1 seeds, two 2s, two 3s, etc; have been knocked out. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
These "stats" are widely available to anyone who wants to see them. Merely regurgitating them back to us isn't really adding any value.
Oh, if there was a stat for "Thread Value Added" or TVA, I don't think there's any doubt that I would be far ahead of you in that metric. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Oh, if there was a stat for "Thread Value Added" or TVA, I don't think there's any doubt that I would be far ahead of you in that metric.
I cannot compete with you on the endless # of "soft" references.
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Kansas has the misfortune of being on the complete wrong side of the bracket and having the toughest road remaining of any of the top teams. For example, they've only got a 22% chance to make the FF according to KenPom (far below the 40-50% of teams like Villanova/Duke/Gonzaga) while KState (who, as everyone knows, is a bad team with an even worse coach) is at 16%. Must be nice to have Kentucky/Loyola/Nevada as opponents next weekend rather than Clemson and Duke. Of course, an "easier" road isn't necessarily a guarantee either as we've learned over the years...
Then again on the + side, if we get there, we have a better chance to win the whole thing, correct? [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
Then again on the + side, if we get there, we have a better chance to win the whole thing, correct?
Well, a lot of this is based off Kansas being 9th in kenpom, so even Gonzaga and Michigan on the other side will set off kenpom's alarms. The reason Kansas supposedly had the lower chance of beating Seton Hall than other 1s had in the 2nd round wasn't because Seton Hall was ranked any higher, it was because Kansas was ranked lower than the other 1s except for Xavier.
Looking at opponents remaining, it's Villanova's road that's tougher, with the better opponent in the SS, only one spot worse than Kansas' opponent in the EE, and no chance at a relative cupcake.
But, Kansas is 9th compared Villanova being #1.... it's false to say Kansas has the toughest road remaining, even if their chances of going to the Final Four are lower because they aren't as good as Villanova.
Of course, the other side of the bracket is wrecked, but there are still a couple top 10 kenpom teams in there.
Villanova (1) vs 11th, 4th/13th
Kansas (9) vs 14th, 3rd/44th
Kentucky (16) vs 39th, 36th/23rd
Gonzaga (7) vs 30th, 10th/25th
Of course, actual analysis isn't as sexy as saying 22% and easily the toughest road, I guess. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
Well, a lot of this is based off Kansas being 9th in kenpom, so even Gonzaga and Michigan on the other side will set off kenpom's alarms. The reason Kansas supposedly had the lower chance of beating Seton Hall than other 1s had in the 2nd round wasn't because Seton Hall was ranked any higher, it was because Kansas was ranked lower than the other 1s except for Xavier.
Looking at opponents remaining, it's Villanova's road that's tougher, with the better opponent in the SS, only one spot worse than Kansas' opponent in the EE, and no chance at a relative cupcake.
But, Kansas is 9th compared Villanova being #1.... it's false to say Kansas has the toughest road remaining, even if their chances of going to the Final Four are lower because they aren't as good as Villanova.
Of course, the other side of the bracket is wrecked, but there are still a couple top 10 kenpom teams in there.
Villanova (1) vs 11th, 4th/13th
Kansas (9) vs 14th, 3rd/44th
Kentucky (16) vs 39th, 36th/23rd
Gonzaga (7) vs 30th, 10th/25th
Of course, actual analysis isn't as sexy as saying 22% and easily the toughest road, I guess.
Unsurprisingly you have not accounted for the fact that 3rd ranked Duke is far superior to 4th ranked Purdue. Their +29.65 efficiency margin is a huge difference from Purdue's 26.81, which is what really makes KU's road the toughest of any remaining team. There are only 2 truly elite teams left in this competition (Villanova and Duke) and they are both directly in this team's path. If KU does make the final, it will be quite the feat. [Reply]