Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
If they were "coming into their prime", they wouldn't have looked like dogshit last season (for simply missing Durant). I think Durant knew exactly what that supporting cast would be and got the hell out of Dodge.
If you are comparing it to jumping on a team that won 73 games without him then any other supporting cast is dog shit. Still a playoff team without him and he was CLEARLY the best player on the Warriors. Losing a generational player tends to affect a basketball team.
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
What difference does it make which conference anybody is in for the next few years? No matter how good any team is in either the East or the West, the Warriors are still going to be better.
All roads lead to a Golden State beatdown eventually.
Originally Posted by lewdog:
What's the thought on Blake Griffin at this state in his career?
Talking about Suns and I'm trying to determine if Booker, Josh Jackson and Griffin would get me excited enough to start watching. Eric Bledsoe is good too but they are thinking of trading him?
The Suns were better off not going after a star yet. Especially one who has that injury history. They need to play the lottery at least one more year.
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Probably smarter in the long run. We need to worry about the new contracts for Wiggins and KAT and possibly Butler. Millsap was too expensive.
3 solid veteran adds and hopefully they can teach KAT and Wiggins to be professionals and play defense.
Originally Posted by okcchief:
If you are comparing it to jumping on a team that won 73 games without him then any other supporting cast is dog shit. Still a playoff team without him and he was CLEARLY the best player on the Warriors. Losing a generational player tends to affect a basketball team.
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Durant and the Thunder had the Warriors (one of the best teams in NBA history at the time even before Durant's addition) at their complete mercy in the 2016 WCF. The game and the series would have been theirs had they not committed 6 turnovers in the last three minutes of game 6.
The team they had was more than good enough to win a title with KD there, I'm not sure why anybody would refute that. [Reply]
Yeah, I'm not sure why anybody gives a damn about conference parity. It's not like it will affect the final outcome of the playoffs for the foreseeable future. The Warriors with Durant are so vastly superior to the competition that they will run through any Western Conference opponent they play with ease. There's certainly nobody out there in the 2017-2018 season that stands a chance.
The only real challenge they may face in the next couple of years will be when LeBron, CP3, and Paul George join the Lakers for 2018-2019 (which seems to be the most likely outcome at this point), but there's a very real possibility the former two will have declined significantly by then and it won't matter at all. [Reply]
Originally Posted by mcaj22:
3 years 100 million goodness
Raptors definitely going to make other moves now (Carroll, Valanciunas , Joseph) probably could or should be traded
Honestly a bargain for the value he provides (the Raptors would be a sub 40 win team without him and now they could easily be back in the ECF next year) and less term than I expected. Will allow them to begin a rebuild sooner once it all crashes and burns in a few years. [Reply]
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
Loyalty doesn't exist in sports much anymore, either from the players or owners side. Anyway he gave them almost 10 years while they broke up a dynasty. I think he was "loyal" enough.
Loyalty shouldn't even factor in from the players side because it sure as hell doesn't from the owners side.
I can vouch for that as a Pacers fan. The list of moves they made that were shitty is a mile long and IMO, is the biggest reason PG left. From the way they traded Granger, the way they screwed Hibbert and dumped Vogel, then traded away his best friend in the world, George Hill, all these things impacted PG in a negative way and told him the organization lacked loyalty in any way.
I don't blame him one bit for wanting out. I just wish he hadn't made it public. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc:
Loyalty shouldn't even factor in from the players side because it sure as hell doesn't from the owners side.
I can vouch for that as a Pacers fan. The list of moves they made that were shitty is a mile long and IMO, is the biggest reason PG left. From the way they traded Granger, the way they screwed Hibbert and dumped Vogel, then traded away his best friend in the world, George Hill, all these things impacted PG in a negative way and told him the organization lacked loyalty in any way.
I don't blame him one bit for wanting out. I just wish he hadn't made it public.
Not true. Lakers showed Kobe loyalty. They paid him a boatload of money at the end of his career when he clearly was not worth it and was already rich as hell. Plenty of other examples.
Pretty sure Paul George was upset Pacers tried to trade him before and that is why he is leaving..
Originally Posted by DanBecky:
Lol shut the hell up. Get paid and win. He owes OKC nothing. Wipe those crusty tears. The players make the team, the team sure as hell doesn't make the players. They play where and with who they want. Get over it.
You shut the hell up. First of all I'm not a Thunder fan so I am not crying at all. I have a right to not like Kevin Durant. You have a right to not care if he left for the Warriors. It's not like I am saying the guy should be burned at the stake or that all of you have to agree with my opinion. IMO it was a b**ch move anyway you try to spin it.
I'm not saying he owes OKC anything. They paid him for those years and he played for them. It was a business transaction but to leave OKC for a 73-9 team, he took the easy way out. No one is going to be impressed by Durant winning rings w the Warriors.
I can only imagine the hate LeBron would get if he did exactly what Durant did but because Durant is not LeBron it is OK. Give me a break. [Reply]