Egypt’s pyramids were built by the biblical Joseph to store grain and were not, as archaeologists believe, tombs for pharaohs, Republican presidential hopeful Ben Carson has said.
The retired neurosurgeon, who is seeking his party’s nomination for the White House, made these remarks in a 1998 address at Andrews University, a Michigan school associated with the Seventh-day Adventist Church, to which he belongs, in a video posted on Buzzfeed on Wednesday.
The church is a conservative evangelical Christian one.
“My own personal theory is that Joseph built the pyramids to store grain,” Carson – who last week overtook Republican rival Donald Trump for the first time in a national poll – told graduates in his address.
“Now all the archeologists think that they were made for the pharaohs’ graves. But, you know, it would have to be something awfully big if you stop and think about it.
“And I don’t think it’d just disappear over the course of time to store that much grain.”
Asked on Wednesday if he still held these views, Carson told CBS News: “It’s still my belief, yes.”
Speaking to MSNBC’s Morning Joe on Thursday, rival Republican Trump said: “He’s informed me about the pyramids. I think I’ll have to put that in my repertoire about Ben. That was a strange deal.”
In his 1998 address, Carson said: “And when you look at the way that the pyramids are made, with many chambers that are hermetically sealed, they’d have to be that way for various reasons.
“And various of scientists have said, ‘Well, you know there were alien beings that came down and they have special knowledge and that’s how, you know, it doesn’t require an alien being when God is with you’.”
In the old testament book of Genesis, Joseph, one of the 12 sons of Jacob, was said to have “stored up grain in great abundance like the sand of the sea, until he stopped measuring it, for it was beyond measure”.
After seven years of plenty, the story in Genesis says, Egypt suffered seven years of famine, during which Joseph was able to feed the people with the grain he had stored.
Carson has spoken often about his faith, saying recently of his critics: “They say, ‘Carson, you know, how can you be a surgeon, a neurosurgeon, and believe that God created the Earth, and not believe in evolution, which is the basis of all knowledge and all science?’ …
“But I do believe God created us, and I did just fine … And in fact, the more you know about God, and the deeper your relationship with God, I think the more intricate becomes your knowledge of the way things work, including the human body.”
Originally Posted by petegz28:
That people are hamstrung specifically about their understanding of birds in the modern day compared to 1,000's of years ago. Whether that is actually applicable to the Carson statement is highly debatable.
Originally Posted by srvy:
Hahahahaha right you cant find Archaeologists who agree on any of the Hieroglyphics and what they mean. Has no one watched PBS and Discovery. Hell these guys nearly come to fisticuffs disagreeing on meaning of Egyptian Hieroglyphics. Hell for all we know some Pharaoh was making a monument in the sand of some hotties boobs.
They wrote it down makes it sound like Lewis and Clark mapping the west or the original surveys of the 7 ranges. Those guys are making as big an educated guess as Ben Carson. Get out of here with that shit.
Originally Posted by srvy:
Oh look a cute cat meme. You fucking know its right. I remember reading about the deep space probe what was it Pioneer, Voyager? Anyway they hired Archaeologists Scientists and Scholars to decide what they would put on the probe in case it was found by intelligent life. These guys couldn't agree on anything worry warting on how it would be interpreted. The whole thing was getting delayed over stupid shit till finally they agreed to disagree and got on with it.
I am not saying Carson isn't out there on this but those guys saying they wrote it down and we understand it is complete BS.
Originally Posted by srvy:
I have not made any theory on anything in here. And I can't say anything about Carsons claim of ancient grain silo's. I suppose its as good as anyone else theory about something that is still a mystery and for anyone to say differently is a flat out lie. And to say we know the meaning of what was scribed on walls and scrolls is also bunk. Because if we did we would know why they were built. How they were built and by whom they were built.
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
Holy shit, I'm fucking rolling here. This is from a conspiracy site that literally believes the earth is flat. Check out the author's brief bio...
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Originally Posted by srvy:
I dont care anything about the dude himself but his sources and most the facts above are sound. You didnt read it did you.
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
Adolph Hitler got a bad rap.
The earth is flat.
Dinosaurs didn't exist.
Originally Posted by srvy:
Its not a globe or sphere or ellipsoid. A Geiod and here is an image of of the actual mapped surface of the earth.
Originally Posted by srvy:
Oh surprise look the are some surfaces that appear to be flat. The eath is more like a misshaped rock.
Originally Posted by Dave Lane:
This thread deserves to be in the hall of classics, holy shit it is wonderful.
I totally forgot about this gem. Great bump. [Reply]
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Well he probably isn't wrong about that statement in and of itself given the general ignorance to any and almost everything by our American Idol society,
Originally Posted by srvy:
Hahahahaha right you cant find Archaeologists who agree on any of the Hieroglyphics and what they mean. Has no one watched PBS and Discovery. Hell these guys nearly come to fisticuffs disagreeing on meaning of Egyptian Hieroglyphics. Hell for all we know some Pharaoh was making a monument in the sand of some hotties boobs.
They wrote it down makes it sound like Lewis and Clark mapping the west or the original surveys of the 7 ranges. Those guys are making as big an educated guess as Ben Carson. Get out of here with that shit.
Originally Posted by Dave Lane:
Well being I've been to Egypt multiple times, actually talked to actual archeologists (as a child I wanted nothing more than to be an Egyptologist) and the Egyptian military has asked me to come shoot Milky Way images above Egyptian monuments I'm going to hazard a guess that I'm possibly more well rounded on this subject than you. Of course thats me discounting your extensive and diligent PBS and Discovery work whilst throwing back a few PBRs.
I can translate hieroglyphics, there are like books on how to do it and at this point Google may have a hieroglyphic translator as an add-on to its Chrome browser. The Ancient Egyptian language is extremely well known and documented. The Book of the Dead, the Pyramid Texts and the walls of all the royal tombs in Saqqara, the Valley of the Kings all the way to Abu Simbel are wholly translated. I have here a section of the Ramesseum with hieroglyphics on it.
As I said earlier and other peoples responses obviously show they concur it would be best for you to either take some time to read, or respond with sorry I didn't know that and disengage.
Dave, that response to scrrvy was like a dog owner swatting a puppy with a rolled up newspaper. [Reply]
If you don't think coyotes can safely leap off a large cliff by using an umbrella as a parachute, you're hamstrung by a very modern conception of coyotes. [Reply]
