Originally Posted by DeepPurple:
I saw Sammy solo in '84 open for ZZ Top Eliminator Tour and his opening was 90 minutes and was fantastic. If all opening acts were as good as he was, all shows would be better, and ZZ Top was way better than I expected. Overall one of the best shows I've seen.
I saw this act as well! Brendan Byrne arena. Wasn't impressed with ZZ Top live. a little boring.
Sammy was good but I didn't know much about him back then. :-) [Reply]
Sometimes people just turn bitter in life. EVH had so much going for him but just felt he deserved more, much better accolades and other's got credit he deserved.
Not a great way to live.
Sorry he burnt so many bridges. Good lesson to learn in this tragedy. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
Sorry if Q, but this is prime nostalgia, and the VB interview segment is effing aces [even though Eddie is just a presence in that part].
On one of those shows Dave says, "Eddie, you should really think about getting yourself some equipment", while Eddie is standing in front of a wall of amps. [Reply]
Originally Posted by scho63:
I saw this act as well! Brendan Byrne arena. Wasn't impressed with ZZ Top live. a little boring.
Sammy was good but I didn't know much about him back then. :-)
I saw ZZ Top in Savannah Georgia, they were wearing matching white jump suits sort of like Pete Townsend outfit, not your country western look. The music was tight and loud, the hits from Eliminator everybody really got into, the lights were very bright on the stage, more colorful than I had anticipated. They had a fake body fall from the rafters, they had confetti rain down, they did stuff I never figured a little band from Texas would do. Maybe your show was an off night. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
Was curious what "in the box" plugs you like...I'm in a small, private forum with music producers
I put this in spoilers as to not derail the thread.
Spoiler!
I'm a TV Composer/Producer. I've scored a TV show for the past three years, which is currently on hiatus. I've written for several music libraries and just finished up a batch of guitar-driven tracks for College Football and the NFL on CBS.
I compose in multiple genres, so I have the all of the East-West/Quantum Leap Orchestral sample libraries along many of the their ethnic instrument libraries, Komplete 12, every Toontrack EZX and SDX library for Superior 3.2 and several standalone 3rd party sample libraries for Kontakt.
In terms of effects plugins, I have all of the Lexicon Bundles, the Waves Diamond bundle, Soundtoys 5.2 bundle, Eventide Anthology (H3000, H910, etc.), PSP, Slate, IK, TC Electronic VSS3, TC 1210, 2290, etc. and so on. I record real guitar and bass amp and have 24 guitars and basses. I also have lots of hardware including Vintech 273x, an X73, 1176, etc.
Generally speaking, I use the VSS3 and the Lexicon Hall reverbs for orchestral work, Lexicon Plate and Hall for drums, Soundtoys Echo Boy (Echoplex and Memory Man) for long and short delays for guitars, Eventide Harmonizer on Bass Guitar and Snare, PSP Buspressor on the 2 buss, several different Kush Audio Compressors and Transformers on Drum Groups along with a Distressor plugin on the Drum Buss.
Every few years, I'll get sick of the way I "sound" so I'll dump all my templates and start from scratch. I'm always happier with the results after doing so. If you have any specific questions, PM me so that I can provide further detail.
Originally Posted by scho63:
Sorry he burnt so many bridges. Good lesson to learn in this tragedy.
The sad part is that in reading all of the tributes on Twitter and Instagram, very few people have said anything nice and kind about the man. It's mostly been how he inspired people or how he changed the world, which is absolutely true but it also shows the dearth of good human relationships in his life.
Even his current wife said "Our journey together has not always been an easy one but in the end and always we have a connection".
To me, it's sad that even the day after he passed, she couldn't drop the fact that they had some "difficulties". [Reply]
Irving Azoff, the band's manager, addressed the possibility of previously unreleased recordings from Eddie seeing the light of day, saying: "Wolf [Eddie's son] and Alex [Eddie's brother] will go up to 5150, the studio in Ed's house, but there’s been a lot of recording over the years. I can't predict that for sure there will be anything new, but for sure they're going to look at it."
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I've been told by people that have actually worked with Van Halen and at Eddie's studio that have said there's nothing there. It took 2 years to record A Different Kind Of Truth and the majority of those songs were from their early 70's days that needed to be completely re-worked in order to release them. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
I put this in spoilers as to not derail the thread.
Spoiler!
I'm a TV Composer/Producer. I've scored a TV show for the past three years, which is currently on hiatus. I've written for several music libraries and just finished up a batch of guitar-driven tracks for College Football and the NFL on CBS.
I compose in multiple genres, so I have the all of the East-West/Quantum Leap Orchestral sample libraries along many of the their ethnic instrument libraries, Komplete 12, every Toontrack EZX and SDX library for Superior 3.2 and several standalone 3rd party sample libraries for Kontakt.
In terms of effects plugins, I have all of the Lexicon Bundles, the Waves Diamond bundle, Soundtoys 5.2 bundle, Eventide Anthology (H3000, H910, etc.), PSP, Slate, IK, TC Electronic VSS3, TC 1210, 2290, etc. and so on. I record real guitar and bass amp and have 24 guitars and basses. I also have lots of hardware including Vintech 273x, an X73, 1176, etc.
Generally speaking, I use the VSS3 and the Lexicon Hall reverbs for orchestral work, Lexicon Plate and Hall for drums, Soundtoys Echo Boy (Echoplex and Memory Man) for long and short delays for guitars, Eventide Harmonizer on Bass Guitar and Snare, PSP Buspressor on the 2 buss, several different Kush Audio Compressors and Transformers on Drum Groups along with a Distressor plugin on the Drum Buss.
Every few years, I'll get sick of the way I "sound" so I'll dump all my templates and start from scratch. I'm always happier with the results after doing so. If you have any specific questions, PM me so that I can provide further detail.
Here's my run down...
Spoiler!
We use a lot of the same plug-ins...
I have around 200 Waves plugs...really only use a handful. SSL channel strip, H-delay, C-6 multi-compressor (for side-chaining), Maxxbass, S1 stereo imager...and few specialty ones.
I use the Lexicon PCM bundle for traditional reverb...and Vahalla for more eccentric/lush.
I use DMG compassion for compression...if you haven't checked them out, you should. Its the best on the planet...also use DMG limitless/EQuilibrium. They are the top of the food-chain as far as "in the box" tech. FabFilter is my basic "toolbox EQ...light on processing.
U-he Presswork for Snares...and U-he Satin for analog tape emulation....use their delay too...been wanting to get Echoboy. Use PSP 42/84 too...vintage warmer in certain instances.
I use the Elysia stuff ...which is excellent EQ/Compression. Expensive and a CPU hog...
Isotope Neutron..
SPL bundle...De-Verb is amazing as is Transient Designer.
Master bus..."The Glue" from Cytonic. Used to use the SSL master bus compressor...but the Glue is much better.
Mastering I use the Brainworx BX suite...awesome stuff.
D16 group for all phaser/flange/chorus/distortion effects ...best I've found. Really really good...
Monitoring...use Nuemann KH 120s paired with an Adam Audio sub. Use Blue Skys as a secondary system.
Logic and MPC....
Soft synths...
D16...Lush-101
U-he... Diva, Zebra, Hive... Best sounding soft synth company IMO.
Originally Posted by DeepPurple:
I saw ZZ Top in Savannah Georgia, they were wearing matching white jump suits sort of like Pete Townsend outfit, not your country western look. The music was tight and loud, the hits from Eliminator everybody really got into, the lights were very bright on the stage, more colorful than I had anticipated. They had a fake body fall from the rafters, they had confetti rain down, they did stuff I never figured a little band from Texas would do. Maybe your show was an off night.
They did nothing like that. The only thing they did was they did a smoke bomb on stage, disappeared and only the two guitars were left on stage spinning in a circle.
They stayed in one place for the whole show.
The sound not bad, the show not so good.
Still Duran Duran best show I ever saw, followed by Meat Loaf in a small venue during one of his comebacks, Phil Collins and Genesis 3rd, Bon Jovi, 4th, Bruce Springsteen 5th because he was too far away and I stood for 4 /2 hrs and Santana was good.
Who would think Duran Duran would be best? LOL [Reply]
Originally Posted by scho63:
...Still Duran Duran best show I ever saw, followed by Meat Loaf in a small venue during one of his comebacks, Phil Collins and Genesis 3rd, Bon Jovi, 4th, Bruce Springsteen 5th because he was too far away and I stood for 4 /2 hrs and Santana was good.
Who would think Duran Duran would be best? LOL
It's like I went to the Amnesty Int'l Concert at the Atlanta Omni in 1986 and saw each band perform 6 songs. U2, The Police, Bryan Adams, Lou Reed and Peter Gabriel. I thought PG blew the other acts away. In defense I saw U2 a year earlier on the Unforgetable Fire Tour and they were excellent music wise but were not much of a theatrical show in the early days.
Shows how acts change, I saw Bon Jovi open for the Scorpions in '84 Love at First Sting Tour and we booed BJ off the stage. He was such poser in those days in his fish net shirt and big hair, couldn't stand the guy.
Honestly the most impressed show was by was Jethro Tull in '72, they did all of Aqualung and Thick as Brick and were very theatrical with people dressed as rabbits and big phones ringing, it was a real show.
Worse act I saw was Billy Squier in '82, he was in a pink tank top and sort of pranced around on stage, he was such a lightweight. The opening act was Saga from Canada and they had just started playing 'On the Loose' on the radio. I went right out and bought their Worlds Apart album the next day. They had 3 keyboards and electronic drums, very powerful sounding live and the singer was very good.
My favorite show of all time was summer of '80 in Biloxi, Miss. It was Journey "Departure" tour with the Babys opening. I'm a big fan of really good power pop singers and John Waite and Steve Perry fit the bill. They were both excellent. [Reply]
In 1986, BTO opened for Van Halen on their 5150 tour. Randy Bachman's son, Tal Bachman, was 17 years old when his dad asked if he wanted to join the tour for 3 weeks. Imagine being a 17 year old kid and getting to see Van Halen play up close and personal for 3 weeks.
PS: I do not want to hijack the thread with comments about the source website, which is generally a political website. I did not know the source before I clicked on the link and my goal isn't to vouch for or decry the source website. The article is not political even if the website generally is. I just thought this story was really cool, mainly because I was 17 years old that summer and the thought of going on that tour at that age just pegged the 'way-too-cool' meter. It's also a good story about Edward Van Halen the person, not just the guitar player. [Reply]
As it turns out. Some of my best friends from high school lived a couple houses away from the Van Halen family in the 70s and 80s. They had a neighborhood lawn business going and would do Van Halens lawn. Got paid but also got tickets and passes etc.. Eddie gave one of the Brothers a quitar. And the sisters were in his wedding, if I'm not mistaken.
Just a bit of Pasadena history.. [Reply]
