If watching Deebo Samuel carve up this defense wasn't enough evidence, keep in mind the Chiefs have only two corners under contract for 2020. This is a major need and thankfully at a deep group of players in this draft.
Johnson has excellent size and would be ideal in the Kansas City defense. He can press or play off. He's big enough to handle physical receivers. With only Charvarius Ward set to return as a starter, this is the bigger need than complementary pieces on offense.
If this team goes for a bigger receiver, and not that I don't like Davis, I think I'd prefer Isaiah Hodgins. Reminds a bunch of Kenny Golladay coming out and probably will be there around the same time (3-96). [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
If this team goes for a bigger receiver, and not that I don't like Davis, I think I'd prefer Isaiah Hodgins. Reminds a bunch of Kenny Golladay coming out and probably will be there around the same time (3-96).
Or Denzel Mims. Who also draws Golladay comps.
Mims, for a big guy with a huge catch radius who likes to run the 9 route, gains surprisingly good separation on shorter routes, too. [Reply]
I've come around on the idea of using at least one of the first two picks on a skill player on offense.
They're likely losing Watkins, and he has been huge for KC when teams scheme to take away Hill and Kelce. You need that third threat who can make defenses pay for singling them up.
Running back is probably the biggest initial bang-for-the-buck. If they can get a true 3-down guy like Swift or Dobbins at 32, it makes sense to me.
Dobbins is a more explosive HR threat, Swift has better vision.
If they go that way at 32, probably leaves them needing to take a CB at 63, unless there's an OL/DL there they just love. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
If this team goes for a bigger receiver, and not that I don't like Davis, I think I'd prefer Isaiah Hodgins. Reminds a bunch of Kenny Golladay coming out and probably will be there around the same time (3-96).
After watching Hodgins in person a bunch of times now....I’d fucking love that pick. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
I've come around on the idea of using at least one of the first two picks on a skill player on offense.
They're likely losing Watkins, and he has been huge for KC when teams scheme to take away Hill and Kelce. You need that third threat who can make defenses pay for singling them up.
Running back is probably the biggest initial bang-for-the-buck. If they can get a true 3-down guy like Swift or Dobbins at 32, it makes sense to me.
Dobbins is a more explosive HR threat, Swift has better vision.
If they go that way at 32, probably leaves them needing to take a CB at 63, unless there's an OL/DL there they just love.
I don’t have 100% confidence in Hardman right now to be that dude but isn’t that kinda what we need him to be? :-)
I think he’s definitely more than just a kick returner and will start in 3 WR sets. But we do need more of a possession style WR to complement he and Hill.
RB may be the spot. I think they could upgrade there if it’s a BPA situation. I just hope we never pay big at that position as long as Mahomes is around, it just wouldn’t make sense. [Reply]
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
I don’t have 100% confidence in Hardman right now to be that dude but isn’t that kinda what we need him to be? :-)
I think he’s definitely more than just a kick returner and will start in 3 WR sets. But we do need more of a possession style WR to complement he and Hill.
RB may be the spot. I think they could upgrade there if it’s a BPA situation. I just hope we never pay big at that position as long as Mahomes is around, it just wouldn’t make sense.
That's one thing that scares me most about spending a 1st on a RB. You get 4 years and then a more expensive 5th year and then what? If he's great you almost feel compelled to extend him for big money because you burned that 1st. You wouldn't spend a 1st rounder every 4 to 5 years on a RB. I think you just churn a 3rd round pick every 4 years. I kind of feel the same about backup QB. Buy one in the 4th every 4 years for super cheap rather than buying a vet for $3m+ a season. That's two positions you basically lock up 4 years at a crack for 1-2 m per year rather than 6-7 per year. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
That's one thing that scares me most about spending a 1st on a RB. You get 4 years and then a more expensive 5th year and then what? If he's great you almost feel compelled to extend him for big money because you burned that 1st. You wouldn't spend a 1st rounder every 4 to 5 years on a RB. I think you just churn a 3rd round pick every 4 years. I kind of feel the same about backup QB. Buy one in the 4th every 4 years for super cheap rather than buying a vet for $3m+ a season. That's two positions you basically lock up 4 years at a crack for 1-2 m per year rather than 6-7 per year.
As long as Pat is our QB we don't need a super dynamic RB. It's a nice luxury if we hit one in the draft, but it's not something we should be spending dollars on.
Make sure he has a solid line, a good tight end, and the rest will fall into place.
The Patriots gave us the play book for how to manage a roster around an elite QB. [Reply]
you know who might be an interesting WR? Lynn Bowden from Kentucky.
Was the #1 receiver; lighting it up. Then last year, the top two QB's went down and Bowden took over the QB spot and played Lamar Jackson-style.
I think Andy would have a lot of fun with a cat like that. Can you imagine? WR screen that's actually a lateral and then a 50 yard bomb to Tyreek? [Reply]
Unless there is a player who falls that we absolutely have to have I'm in favor of going the Patriots route of constantly trading down for more picks. If this draft is like many others where pundits claim there are only 20 or so true first round talents then the difference between a player taken at 32 and between 40-50 could be negligible. With our limited cap room we can use every pick possible to add depth/competition. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
you know who might be an interesting WR? Lynn Bowden from Kentucky.
Was the #1 receiver; lighting it up. Then last year, the top two QB's went down and Bowden took over the QB spot and played Lamar Jackson-style.
I think Andy would have a lot of fun with a cat like that. Can you imagine? WR screen that's actually a lateral and then a 50 yard bomb to Tyreek?
He’s intriguing no doubt. My only problem with him is he’s very raw in terms of route running and we already have a guy like that in Hardman.
Preferably, I’d like to get a guy with speed and a good route runner. We need somebody that can make an immediate impact without a limited route tree IMO.
If we get a solid veteran WR, I’d feel a lot better about taking a guy like him though. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
That's one thing that scares me most about spending a 1st on a RB. You get 4 years and then a more expensive 5th year and then what?
Four years with Patrick Mahomes, a running back like Dobbins or Swift, Kelce, Hill and Hardman, not to mention other skill players the Chiefs sign, draft and develop during that time?
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Four years with Patrick Mahomes, a running back like Dobbins or Swift, Kelce, Hill and Hardman, not to mention other skill players the Chiefs sign, draft and develop during that time?
Sign me up.
Yea I don’t really think we can go wrong. If the value isn’t there at CB, LB, DE, or IOL then don’t hesitate to take Swift or Dobbins. [Reply]