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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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O.city 08:32 AM 05-08-2020
New York is probably at 30% right now and look at the death rate there
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O.city 08:34 AM 05-08-2020
https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/12...943677953?s=21

Here’s some nursing home data

I’m guessing we end up having 60% of our deaths from these places. That’s fucking awful
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BleedingRed 08:34 AM 05-08-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
We have serology already that doesn’t show that.

Wouldn’t all the lockdowns and distancing have slowed down the growth? That seems pretty solid reasoning wise
Actually we have 5 Universities saying that

USC
Miami
Standford
Oxford
etc

They believe the real number of infected is much higher than we know based on their studies.
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O.city 08:37 AM 05-08-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Actually we have 5 Universities saying that

USC
Miami
Standford
Oxford
etc

They believe the real number of infected is much higher than we know based on their studies.
Are they 30 to 40 percent like you suggested? There has also been issues with the tests and protocol used it seems
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Rausch 08:40 AM 05-08-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
What agenda do I have?

I have never voted in your country or mine so it can't be political , pretty sure it isn't financial, and I have been using a wait and see approach for both HCQ and Remdevisir or any other drugs that as being tested.
HCQ has been used to treat corona virus since 2005...
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Marcellus 08:40 AM 05-08-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Actually we have 5 Universities saying that

USC
Miami
Standford
Oxford
etc

They believe the real number of infected is much higher than we know based on their studies.
Don't forget the USS Roosevelt.
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Monticore 08:40 AM 05-08-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Are they 30 to 40 percent like you suggested? There has also been issues with the tests and protocol used it seems
As the serology tests improve it should help us get a better idea of this thing. NY and other countries may be anomalies but it would be nice to know why.
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ghak99 08:43 AM 05-08-2020
Does anyone think this might lead to a change in how the elderly are handled?

As I browse social media I notice a lot of people who moved away from their family getting rather emotional about their parents or grandparents. The "I can't be there or take them food" tears are flowing. If you even hint at the, "you made this choice when you left" discussion all hell breaks loose.

In other countries it's much more common for immediate family to take care of the older family members themselves instead of dumping them in some home. My family has been very blessed with females who just naturally fall into the role, so it's never been a big family decision but it's interesting to see some trends appearing in the discussions.
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Monticore 08:44 AM 05-08-2020
Originally Posted by Rausch:
HCQ has been used to treat corona virus since 2005...
Do you have a link.
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BleedingRed 08:45 AM 05-08-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Are they 30 to 40 percent like you suggested? There has also been issues with the tests and protocol used it seems
I mean that just the number they reported at a glance. I couldn't speak to it more specifically but it just my opinion.

With NY and other countries going back to test samples of people who died in December it would leave me to believe the Asymptomatic spread of CoronaVirus was much more wide spread.

Based on the growth of the virus to date, and the times its rate of spread has drastically slowed twice, I think that it has more to do with it being much more wide spread than we know.
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BleedingRed 08:46 AM 05-08-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
Do you have a link.
Actually I have a study done that say that its a inhibitor of SARS from 2005. I'll look for it but yes....

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/
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FloridaMan88 08:48 AM 05-08-2020
The projected death toll from the lockdown measures, according to this study...

Link: https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/us-...36c241dac365f8

Originally Posted by :
Covid-19 could kill an extra 75,000 Americans through "deaths of despair"

As many as 75,000 Americans could die because of drug or alcohol misuse and suicide as a result of the coronavirus pandemic, according to an analysis conducted by the national public health group Well Being Trust.

The growing unemployment crisis, economic downturns and stress caused by isolation and lack of a definitive end date for the pandemic could significantly increase so-called “deaths of despair” unless local, state and federal authorities take action, the group says in a new report released Friday.

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displacedinMN 08:56 AM 05-08-2020
Originally Posted by ghak99:
Does anyone think this might lead to a change in how the elderly are handled?

As I browse social media I notice a lot of people who moved away from their family getting rather emotional about their parents or grandparents. The "I can't be there or take them food" tears are flowing. If you even hint at the, "you made this choice when you left" discussion all hell breaks loose.

In other countries it's much more common for immediate family to take care of the older family members themselves instead of dumping them in some home. My family has been very blessed with females who just naturally fall into the role, so it's never been a big family decision but it's interesting to see some trends appearing in the discussions.

Minnesota
500 covid deaths
80% elderly
100 of those were in 2 facilities.


This may be one of the changes. Although getting older is getting easier. I know 80 year olds that golf 2-3 times a week.
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SAUTO 08:59 AM 05-08-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Are they 30 to 40 percent like you suggested? There has also been issues with the tests and protocol used it seems
didnt they random test some people in springfield recently? how many of them were positive?
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Marcellus 08:59 AM 05-08-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
The projected death toll from the lockdown measures, according to this study...

Link: https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/us-...36c241dac365f8
You didn't get the memo? Those people don't count.
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