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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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Demonpenz 09:26 AM 05-07-2020
Man if you take out that 90 yard run we only allowed 40 yards per game /vermeil yeah but that run fucking happened

If you take out new York yadda yadda yadda. Yeah but new York happened.
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BleedingRed 09:26 AM 05-07-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
Will they be unemployed for ever?
The elderly are part of the economy, hospitals, drug companies, nursing home a lot of jobs revolve around them as well, I know not everyone with get in their feet at the same time or ever again , but the will still get the opportunity.
Lmao,


Yeah it will be a great opportunity guys! When MILLIONS of people default on loans the banks will just shrug it off.

No problem just get more money right?

Jesus some of you people have no concept on how economically dangerous COVID is becoming.
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'Hamas' Jenkins 09:27 AM 05-07-2020
Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief:
This just isn't true. We are testing anyone that dies in the hospital or at home who had symptoms of Covid-19 from the start. In fact, the CDC is having anyone with similar symptoms to Covid-19 be list as a probable Covid-19 deaths and those are in all of the counts we see. When comparing deaths this year to probable deaths during previous years for the same time period, we are under in some weeks and over in some, but the over is less than amount of Covid deaths. H1N1, killed more young and healthy, it's just a fact, and the CDC admitted they didn't have testing capabilities to test everyone who they thought had H1N1 at the time. This has been linked previously in this thread.
Did you ever think that's why the CDC estimates of deaths were multiple times that of laboratory-confirmed deaths for H1N1?
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'Hamas' Jenkins 09:30 AM 05-07-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
4 countries that are islands (South Korea is effectively a island) and one I wouldn't trust any health reporting from.

Hows Europe doing?
Better than the US right now, which is why their caseloads and deaths are declining at a faster rate, and some of their countries are able to begin opening while not at their peak.

Keep moving those goalposts, though. It is in no way transparent.
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O.city 09:30 AM 05-07-2020
Even if you just open the gates up, the economy is gonna take a while to come back. People aren't running out and shopping and such.
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Monticore 09:32 AM 05-07-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Lmao,


Yeah it will be a great opportunity guys! When MILLIONS of people default on loans the banks will just shrug it off.

No problem just get more money right?

Jesus some of you people have no concept on how economically dangerous COVID is becoming.
What do you want me to do?
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Discuss Thrower 09:32 AM 05-07-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Lmao,


Yeah it will be a great opportunity guys! When MILLIONS of people default on loans the banks will just shrug it off.

No problem just get more money right?

Jesus some of you people have no concept on how economically dangerous COVID is becoming.
"It's not a bug; it's a design feature."


Econ related news, there are fewer private sector jobs now than there was in Q2 2001.
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BleedingRed 09:33 AM 05-07-2020
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
Better than the US right now, which is why their caseloads and deaths are declining at a faster rate, and some of their countries are able to begin opening while not at their peak.

Keep moving those goalposts, though. It is in no way transparent.
Ahhh Europe is better than the US huh?

Based on what metric? Is it their 147,000 Deaths? is it their 1.5 million cases?
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'Hamas' Jenkins 09:36 AM 05-07-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Ahhh Europe is better than the US huh?

Based on what metric? Is it their 147,000 Deaths? is it their 1.5 million cases?
Are numerous countries in Europe currently handling this pandemic better than the US? Without a doubt. Are certain countries handling this poorly? Yes. Is Europe a monolith? No.

The total population of Europe is also 2.5 times that of the US, which means even if you treated it as a monolith that more people are dying per capita here than there. They are also farther along in the history of their epidemic, as it reached critical capacity there before here.
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Pablo 09:37 AM 05-07-2020
DC regulars trying to step out of the way of the Hamas steamroller in this thread:


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BleedingRed 09:39 AM 05-07-2020
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
Are numerous countries in Europe currently handling this pandemic better than the US? Without a doubt. Are certain countries handling this poorly? Yes. Is Europe a monolith? No.

The total population of Europe is also 2.5 times that of the US, which means even if you treated it as a monolith that more people are dying per capita here than there. They are also farther along in the history of their epidemic, as it reached critical capacity there before here.
Are there numerous states handling the crisis better than Europe? Without a doubt. Are certain states handling this poorly? Yes. Is the United States a monolith? no.

:-):-)
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Marcellus 09:41 AM 05-07-2020
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data.page

Rates by age: 16.53 deaths/100K

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/down...y-05062020.pdf

557 confirmed deaths 18-44 and 115 probable

Are you ever right about anything?
I was looking at data they stopped updating April 14th for some reason.

And again you are using the biggest possible outlier in the country, mainly people with serious underlying conditions to compare to incomplete data from 2017-2018.

Originally Posted by :
How many people died from flu during the 2017-2018 season?
While flu deaths in children are reported to CDC, flu deaths in adults are not nationally notifiable. In order to monitor influenza related deaths in all age groups,
CDC tracks pneumonia and influenza (P&I)-attributed deaths through the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) Mortality Reporting System. This system tracks the proportion of death certificates processed that list pneumonia or influenza as the underlying or contributing cause of death. This system provides an overall indication of whether flu-associated deaths are elevated, but does not provide an exact number of how many people died

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Marcellus 09:43 AM 05-07-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Lmao,


Yeah it will be a great opportunity guys! When MILLIONS of people default on loans the banks will just shrug it off.

No problem just get more money right?

Jesus some of you people have no concept on how economically dangerous COVID is becoming.
If we are going to use NYC as the standard for how things are going and need to be handled we may as well throw in the fucking towel.
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Mecca 09:43 AM 05-07-2020
https://www.newsweek.com/overwhelmin...e-poll-1502444

Seems to be the opposite of what I read here.
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stumppy 09:44 AM 05-07-2020
Originally Posted by Pablo:
DC regulars trying to step out of the way of the Hamas steamroller in this thread:

:-)
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