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Nzoner's Game Room>Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
DaFace 01:06 PM 09-29-2018
Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.

By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.
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MIAdragon 10:00 AM 12-12-2018
Originally Posted by tyton75:
man, he better play now ffs!
The entire debacle has been mishandled by both parties here, it’s a shame is didn’t have to be this way.
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InChiefsHeaven 10:03 AM 12-12-2018
Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan:


Berry back?
I'd say that's a good sign...
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chinaski 10:04 AM 12-12-2018
Haglund

Hag = An Ugly Woman
Lund = Aluminum Boat

So Berry evidently has an Ugly Woman in an Aluminum Boat on his heel. Shit man, that' s GOTTA hurt.
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FloridaMan88 10:05 AM 12-12-2018
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball:
You guys turn simple things into some 10000 page conspiracy. It's maddening.
If Eric Berry would have returned to play by now, this thread is dead.

His 4+ month "day to day" heel pain tolerance issue is keeping this thread alive.
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scho63 10:07 AM 12-12-2018
Originally Posted by chinaski:
Haglund

Hag = An Ugly Woman
Lund = Aluminum Boat

So Berry evidently has an Ugly Woman in an Aluminum Boat on his heel. Shit man, that' s GOTTA hurt.
:-):-):-)

And the bitch won't quit!
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philfree 10:07 AM 12-12-2018
Berry's achilles is going to give they just don't know when. They waited as long as they can hoping that it will hold up for a handful of games. We're about to find out how that plan works out.
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loochy 10:08 AM 12-12-2018
Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan:


Berry back?
He HAS to be playing tomorrow...there's no way they'd post that otherwise
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KCJake 10:09 AM 12-12-2018
I have to admit. It got me excited! If something's gonna prevent the Chiefs from winning the Super Bowl, I think we'd all agree it's gonna be the defense. When this guy takes the field tomorrow, I hope we can put all this haglund day to day stuff to rest.

Go CHIEFS!!
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loochy 10:11 AM 12-12-2018
Originally Posted by KCJake:
I have to admit. It got me excited! If something's gonna prevent the Chiefs from winning the Super Bowl, I think we'd all agree it's gonna be the defense. When this guy takes the field tomorrow, I hope we can put all this haglund day to day stuff to rest.

Go CHIEFS!!
Temper your expectations...he'll probably play about 10 snaps and not be a difference maker. Let's just hope for him to not get hurt and take it from there.
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ToxSocks 10:14 AM 12-12-2018
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Remember Morse talking to the media while he was out?

Remember Houston giving us daily updates on his hamstring?

Have you read all of Watkins comments since being hurt?

LDT just hasn't stopped talking.

Oh wait yea that's right, those guys haven't said shit either.

Dummies on here gonna dummy though.
It's been Chiefs policy since Clark took over (at least) to not allow injured players to speak to the media.

You can go back to pretty much every Chiefs injury, ever, under Clark and see that none of them have spoken about their injuries.

But dummy gonna dummy, ya know.
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ToxSocks 10:15 AM 12-12-2018
Originally Posted by Flying High D:

Has the Haglnd Deformity ever been confirmed or denied?
No, it's never been confirmed or denied.

What we do know is that he's had multiple heel injuries in the past that've flared up in camp and early season.
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Frazod 10:16 AM 12-12-2018
Originally Posted by loochy:
He HAS to be playing tomorrow...there's no way they'd post that otherwise
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In58men 10:17 AM 12-12-2018
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
No, it's never been confirmed or denied.

What we do know is that he's had multiple heel injuries in the past that've flared up in camp and early season.
Gout.

Needs to get his uric acid check, I mean he does look like a fucking drunk.
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thabear04 10:50 AM 12-12-2018
Hell yeah Berry finally going to play.
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chiefforlife 10:53 AM 12-12-2018
Berry!! Finally, fuck yeah!!

Rivers just thought, Oh shit...
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