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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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dirk digler 05:57 AM 05-05-2020
Pfizer is starting human trials today for their vaccine. Keep your fingers crossed.



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Monticore 06:06 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
Pfizer is starting human trials today for their vaccine. Keep your fingers crossed.


Few companies have so that’s good
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ChiliConCarnage 06:55 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
Pfizer is starting human trials today for their vaccine. Keep your fingers crossed.


They started trials in Germany a few weeks back I think. Not many people though.. I think it was 12 people. I guess the first trial they just make sure no one dies from it?
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IowaHawkeyeChief 07:26 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
Maybe I’m getting old but people seem to have to no patients and have lost the ability to reason on their own.
There's a lot of "patients" now, although hospitals are not overrun.:-)
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BleedingRed 07:26 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
Taking it super early doesn’t mean it helped, those patients might have recovered on their own and it might not have an effect on the mortality rates.
Or it worked, I mean either or really....
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BigCatDaddy 07:36 AM 05-05-2020
https://www.dailywire.com/news/shock...ign=benshapiro

Will the cure be worse?

The*New York Times reports*that the United States Chamber of Commerce estimates “more than 40 percent of the nation’s 30 million small businesses could close permanently in the next six months” — a statistic entirely attributable to the coronavirus pandemic and ensuing lockdowns.
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Monticore 07:37 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Or it worked, I mean either or really....
It might of sure I’m not saying either way , it just to early to tell ,
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O.city 07:40 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
Few companies have so that’s good
Wonder if they'll ever think of human challenge trials? It's kinda scary but it would work the fastest.
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Monticore 07:41 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief:
There's a lot of "patients" now, although hospitals are not overrun.:-)
Wrong spelling, sorry used to writing the one way more than the other.

Some parts are extremely busy and some are not , unfortunately not all departments are qualified to deal with these patients, and the amount of patients in a hospital doesn’t always tell the true story, dealing with 1 covid patient might need a lot more resources and time , than dealing with a broken leg.
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O.city 07:42 AM 05-05-2020
https://jvi.asm.org/content/early/20...0/JVI.00711-20

Was reading this early this am while drinking my coffee. Ideally, it would do what the first SARS did and delete itself to a lesser virulent version. That could be what is possibly happening with all the asymptomatic patients?
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O.city 07:47 AM 05-05-2020

More good news: Roche's SARS-CoV-2 Ab test received #EUA from @US_FDA. Results in ~ 18 mins & up to 300 tests can be run per hr. Greater than 99.8% specificity & 100% sensitivity in samples taken 2 wks after a PCR-confirmed infection. Roche is ramping up testing capacity.

— Luciana Borio, MD (@llborio) May 4, 2020

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dirk digler 07:51 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
https://jvi.asm.org/content/early/20...0/JVI.00711-20

Was reading this early this am while drinking my coffee. Ideally, it would do what the first SARS did and delete itself to a lesser virulent version. That could be what is possibly happening with all the asymptomatic patients?
I was reading about that this morning on /r/covid19. Theory is as you said it could follow SARS and go away by June. During the SARS outbreak it was the most damaging mid-April through late May.

Singpore also found a larger deletion https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...03.11.987222v1
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O.city 07:56 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
I was reading about that this morning on /r/covid19. Theory is as you said it could follow SARS and go away by June. During the SARS outbreak it was the most damaging mid-April through late May.

Singpore also found a larger deletion https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...03.11.987222v1
That's the hope atleast. It would make some sense as it's the normal progression for viruses.
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Monticore 07:57 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
https://jvi.asm.org/content/early/20...0/JVI.00711-20

Was reading this early this am while drinking my coffee. Ideally, it would do what the first SARS did and delete itself to a lesser virulent version. That could be what is possibly happening with all the asymptomatic patients?
It is a possibility , it was easier to get the R0 of SARs down because it didn’t have the asymptomatic spread.
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O.city 07:58 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
It is a possibility , it was easier to get the R0 of SARs down because it didn’t have the asymptomatic spread.
For sure. There's some thought that this one has or could delete itself enough where it just becomes a normal seasonal variant like the other corona's. We'll see.
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