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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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Marcellus 02:21 PM 05-04-2020
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Your comparison would be like if I compared people with genital warts to long term car accident victims.
No that wouldn't be a valid comparison at all.
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Donger 02:22 PM 05-04-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
There is absolutely nothing invalid in what I am saying. :-)

The point about who is most at risk, the numbers, all of it is valid discussion. I just find it interesting people lose their shit over a specific number and shrug off a greater number.

If 150K people die from this this year you are still 4x more likely to die from heart disease. I get the unknown part of it makes it scary but the truth is a very very small % of the country is at risk of dying even if they get it.

Nothing invalid about any of that. Its pragmatic.
Of course there is. And it's obvious:

Heart disease is NOT contagious. You can't go to the store and "catch" it. You can't go home and give it to other people. Who then give it to other people, and you have exponential growth.

That is why we don't lock down for heart disease or tell people not to drive.

That is why we did for COVID-19. And we still have 70,000 dead.

I get that you have an agenda, but good God, man...
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petegz28 02:22 PM 05-04-2020
Originally Posted by SAUTO:
It's not worse. Hell if this had kids dying they would have locked everything down tight imo.


But there's a vaccine for the flu. And therapeutics.
And we still lose 10's of 1,000's of people each year to it. When do we say enough?!?!?
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jdubya 02:22 PM 05-04-2020
When was the last time any nation stopped EVERYTHING because of a virus?
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ToxSocks 02:22 PM 05-04-2020
I do wonder if we'll see a reduction in flu deaths this year.
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Mecca 02:23 PM 05-04-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
No that wouldn't be a valid comparison at all.
It's basically that ridiculous, you're arguing such and such die from this not taking anything else into account.
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Mecca 02:24 PM 05-04-2020
Originally Posted by jdubya:
When was the last time any nation stopped EVERYTHING because of a virus?
When's the last time a virus popped up and offed this many people this quickly?
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Monticore 02:24 PM 05-04-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
And we still lose 10's of 1,000's of people each year to it. When do we say enough?!?!?
only 45 % of adults get their flu shots in the US flu deaths would be a lot lower if people didn't minimize the flu or the flu shot, so technically stupid people are causing some of those flu deaths.
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petegz28 02:24 PM 05-04-2020
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
I do wonder if we'll see a reduction in flu deaths this year.
I bet we do simply from people being extra cautious about things like not going to work if they are sick, etc.

Or people will just get labeled with Covid and not get tested because things.
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SAUTO 02:25 PM 05-04-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
And we still lose 10's of 1,000's of people each year to it. When do we say enough?!?!?
Pete you're smarter than this.


They think up to 2.2 million would have died from covid by 8-1 if we're had done nothing.

Where does tens of thousands fit into that?
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DaFace 02:25 PM 05-04-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
I bet we do simply from people being extra cautious about things like not going to work if they are sick, etc.

Or people will just get labeled with Covid and not get tested because things.
I also have a hypothesis that 2020-21 flu deaths will be lower because I bet flu vaccination rates go through the roof.
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petegz28 02:26 PM 05-04-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
only 45 % of adults get their flu shots in the US flu deaths would be a lot lower if people didn't minimize the flu or the flu shot, so technically stupid people are causing some of those flu deaths.
So then we lock everything down until everyone get their shot!!!

And FTR, I get the flu shot every year and was sick as fuck this year.

And what about these fucking kids running around with the flu but they are asymptomatic but they bring it home to Mom and Dad and Granny and Grampy?


I am just saying there is a degree of irony in all of this, you have to admit.
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Discuss Thrower 02:26 PM 05-04-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
I also have a hypothesis that 2020-21 flu deaths will be lower because I bet flu vaccination rates go through the roof.
Or because people will not be allowed to be in groups larger than a dozen people for an indefinite period.
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Marcellus 02:27 PM 05-04-2020
Originally Posted by SAUTO:
Pete you're smarter than this.


They think up to 2.2 million would have died from covid by 8-1 if we're had done nothing.

Where does tens of thousands fit into that?
Keep in mind that they had no idea that the infection rate was likely 20X higher than they knew at that time.
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Monticore 02:27 PM 05-04-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
I also have a hypothesis that 2020-21 flu deaths will be lower because I bet flu vaccination rates go through the roof.
nope people still won't , it probably didn't go up with H1n1, it won't now people fear vaccines more than viruses because the man who is trying to GET them created it.
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