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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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SupDock 04:03 PM 03-12-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
Our hospital doesn't even have 1 ventilator, 80 bed hospital mostly chronic care, retirement community, with 2 referral Hospitals who currently are running over capacity, once we start getting hit (only 1 positive) in the area we are fucked.
Does the hospital have surgical cases or an ED?
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DaneMcCloud 04:03 PM 03-12-2020
It's INSANE here in Los Angeles. I'll post more pictures later but this is the first thing I saw entering Costco at 10am:
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TLO 04:04 PM 03-12-2020
Originally Posted by SupDock:
Most likely it isn't widespread yet, or if it is, the fatality rate isn't as high as we expect.

It's possible that there were cases not initially identified as Covid-19 as well.
Do you believe the steps the country has taken will help keep the numbers in check? If not, what further steps do you think we need to take?
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jjjayb 04:04 PM 03-12-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
My big problem is the more people tell me to not touch my face but more I want to, it's the whole penis thing all over again.
You still can't keep penises off your face? :-)
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Discuss Thrower 04:04 PM 03-12-2020
Singapore's Ministry of Health site explaining DORSCON levels
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DaneMcCloud 04:05 PM 03-12-2020
Costco was a MADHOUSE. I parked four city blocks away and walked in the rain to the store because there was no parking available:
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Donger 04:05 PM 03-12-2020
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
It's INSANE here in Los Angeles. I'll post more pictures later but this is the first thing I saw entering Costco at 10am:
Are they exempting the Spanish speakers? No bueno.
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TLO 04:06 PM 03-12-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
The median incubation period was estimated to be 5.1 days (95% CI, 4.5 to 5.8 days), and 97.5% of those who develop symptoms will do so within 11.5 days (CI, 8.2 to 15.6 days) of infection. These estimates imply that, under conservative assumptions, 101 out of every 10 000 cases (99th percentile, 482) will develop symptoms after 14 days of active monitoring or quarantine.
Break this down for a simpleton like myself
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Monticore 04:06 PM 03-12-2020
Originally Posted by SupDock:
Does the hospital have surgical cases or an ED?
We have 24 hr ED run mostly by Family Doctors, we do minor surgical procedures, lumps/bumps and scopes. No internal Medicine on staff. We have 1 respiratory Tech.
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SupDock 04:06 PM 03-12-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
Do you believe the steps the country has taken will help keep the numbers in check? If not, what further steps do you think we need to take?
I think it will help. I'm not an epidemiologist, but widespread testing makes sense to me, to get people to self quarantine.

Perhaps all the media coverage will get people to wash their hands and stay home if they get sick

I don't know what to think about how certain countries seem more effected than others. The virus not being widespread is the only thing that makes sense to me.
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SupDock 04:07 PM 03-12-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
We have 24 hr ED run mostly by Family Doctors, we do minor surgical procedures, lumps/bumps and scopes. No internal Medicine on staff. We have 1 respiratory Tech.
I would be surprised if there wasn't at least one ventilator for surgical cases, etc. Granted, if no one knows how to run it, why have it.
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Donger 04:08 PM 03-12-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
Break this down for a simpleton like myself
Well, it takes ~14 days for symptoms to show up after infection. That's when people will really start hitting the hospitals. That takes us up to right about now to see potentially explosive case increases. I think the next two to four weeks are going to be indicative to how bad it's going to get.
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Donger 04:09 PM 03-12-2020
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Costco was a MADHOUSE. I parked four city blocks away and walked in the rain to the store because there was no parking available:
That ISN'T rain, Dane!

:-)
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dirk digler 04:10 PM 03-12-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
I think I've asked this in the thread before, but never got an answer. Maybe someone can answer now.

If the outbreak is so bad in the US. And we're so far in the shadows about the actual number of the population that have the virus, why aren't healthcare facilities already overrun? Why aren't old people dying at alarming rates all over the country due to people visiting with the virus like they did in Washington? Forget the testing - how would someone miss all of these obvious signs?

Could it be because it isn't being spread everywhere at an alarming rate?
Definitely a valid question. The first case in the US was Jan 20th which is over 7 weeks ago. It seemed to move and develop alot faster in China than it has here but I am no expert.
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KChiefs1 04:10 PM 03-12-2020
Michael Osterholm:

Fatties are in trouble!

https://youtu.be/cZFhjMQrVts
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