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Nzoner's Game Room>Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
DaFace 01:06 PM 09-29-2018
Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.

By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.
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NJChiefsFan 05:56 PM 12-10-2018
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
Well how about this, if he plays Thursday I'll treat it like any player getting paid to play because it's "normal" (not abnormal like missing 14+ weeks with a day-to-day condition).
Again missing the point of my post. Sweet was laughing at the very idea of him playing and basically calling my out for even considering the possibility. That's what I'm talking about here, not giving Berry a heroes welcome for playing.
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GloryDayz 05:58 PM 12-10-2018
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan:
Again missing the point of my post. Sweet was laughing at the very idea of him playing and basically calling my out for even considering the possibility. That's what I'm talking about here, not giving Berry a heroes welcome for playing.
Good. Haglund just needs to shut up and play.
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threebag 06:14 PM 12-10-2018
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
Good. Haglund just needs to shut up and play.
He likes to watch Dirty Dan
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Marcellus 06:17 PM 12-10-2018
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
I'm also concerned because if he's going to be 100% for the playoffs he needs to be on the field now to get up to speed.
Just a wild and crazy guess but I'm almost sure the team and Berry are both aware of this.
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Chiefs=Champions 06:59 PM 12-10-2018
Lot of grandstanding by couch sitters in this thread :-).
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Chris Meck 07:05 PM 12-10-2018
man. I just...I really doubt it. I'd be thrilled, I really would. But I don't see any logical reason at all to think Eric Berry will play meaningful football again. I mean he's played one quarter in two fucking years.

I love the person, love the player, and damn the luck. I just don't see how.
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Pasta Little Brioni 07:12 PM 12-10-2018
Glory called in today with diarrhea
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SAUTO 07:18 PM 12-10-2018
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball:
Glory called in today with diarrhea
Of the mouth?
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Yosef_Malkovitch 07:33 PM 12-10-2018
Originally Posted by Yosef_Malkovitch:

Sure. But if you decide you don't want to put your body through it, you should retire and free up a roster spot (and cap space). Sitting around collecting a check when your heart's not in it anymore is not the way to handle it.

Maybe it's all moot. Maybe he comes back and plays lights out. Who knows. But if he really doesn't have the heart to do it anymore, he should do the right thing and retire.


Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Retiring doesn't do that, this has been explained numerous times. It accelerates the dead money and cap hit from the signing bonus.

OK. I haven't been following the conversation that closely (obviously). If retiring won't do it, he should restructure and *then* retire. There have got to be ways to lessen the cap hit once a player decides his body can't take the game anymore. Assuming, of course, that the player cares to do so.
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Flying High D 07:44 PM 12-10-2018
He released the info when he had cancer, now he won’t release his medical condition? Is it worse than cancer?
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BossChief 07:57 PM 12-10-2018
He did an interview after the Ravens game where he said himself that it’s a pain tolerance issue and he’s trying to get back to being able to play. It’s FULLY up to Eric on when he plays.
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OKchiefs 07:59 PM 12-10-2018
Originally Posted by BossChief:
He did an interview after the Ravens game where he said himself that it’s a pain tolerance issue and he’s trying to get back to being able to play. It’s FULLY up to Eric on when he plays.
Going to be so much fun going through this all over again in 2019!!!
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baitism 08:02 PM 12-10-2018
Does Berry realize pain meds are a thing?
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TribalElder 08:06 PM 12-10-2018
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball:
Glory called in today with diarrhea
he was getting a jersey made
Spoiler!

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TEX 08:09 PM 12-10-2018
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
This game is for the division title. Win and we get a 1st round bye and a really high chance at HFA. If he can't suit up for this game, just put him on IR and cut him with a post June 1st designation the earliest day it is possible.
This...Or some other way if it lessons the cap hit. Point is if he cant play, they need to cut ties with the guy. The Chiefs dont need to go through this again next season.
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